@TheEdVerse can a noble house/family be cast out of nobility by the rest of the nobility in Waterdeep?
— DJ Tigon (@djtigon) March 18, 2019
Oh, yes. Not officially, but a firm-majority-shunning would be recognized by the Masked Lords and formalized by the Open Lord. It’s very rare, though, because unless a noble house is trying to poison the water supply or destroy the ancient elven magic that keeps… 2)
…the city from collapsing into Undermountain, or otherwise endanger the entire city, getting a majority of the nobles to agree on much of anything (beyond "we nobles are special, and should be treated as such") is nigh-impossible.#Realmslore— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 18, 2019
What then might be the penalty if it came to light that a noble house wound up having a tainted bloodline and not truly being human after all No likely legal or official penalty at all, just a loss of prestige and influence ("standing," they'd call it in the Realms) within the ranks of nobles, because some of the oldest, wealthiest, haughtiest Deep houses have some "humans first, humans pure" attitudes.#Realmslore
— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 18, 2019
It would only be exile from Waterdeep, or a refusal to accord members of thnat family with the "rights" (privileges) of noble status, NOT a "stripping of ennoblement" that the Heralds would recognize.
Would the Heralds recognize such a verdict? If so, would it only be in Waterdeep? When two noble families were famously outcast from the Deep, …#Realmslore— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 19, 2019
Would the Heralds recognize such a verdict? If so, would it only be in Waterdeep? 2)
…centuries ago, that WAS a formal, recognized-by-the-Heralds loss of noble status.#Realmslore— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 19, 2019
Hmm, this might be 4e stuff that's been swept under the pelt, but I think that Dagult Neverember was forced out of waterdhavian nobility for his "excessive" involvement in Neverwinter and lack of presence in Waterdeep. Is that right? #Realmslore
— Zac (@zac_stelling) March 18, 2019
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In the eyes of Waterdeep’s nobles, Dagult Neverember was never IN their ranks. The Open Lord and Masked Lords need not be of the Deep’s nobility (and the Open Lord hasn’t really ever been), and often function more as a check/rival to the nobles (though the…#Realmslore2)
…nobles usually have some representation among the Masked Lords, both to be a part of/informed about the governing debates and rule-making, and because there are always some nobles who personally like wielding power.#Realmslore— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 19, 2019
Is Dagult generally disliked in Waterdeep or does he still have supporters? Both. As in: he's generally disliked (as in, by the city at large; among the current Masked Lords and Palace staff, he's remembered with loathing, as are many individuals who stir things up), but still has a few supporters.#Realmslore
— Ed Greenwood (@TheEdVerse) March 19, 2019
