Weapon Master Fighter subclass pt2 – The Mike Mearls Happy Fun Hour

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UA Beauty Domain for clerics!

July 28, 2018Zoltar Leave a comment

Almost done with the new domains I need for to round out my campaign’s pantheon. The Beauty domain is a little bonkers, probably too nutty for a print product. What do you think? Beauty can both bend minds and inspire hearts. It is the force that compels others to lose control and give in to their impulses, but it can also awaken strength and determination to steel a forlorn heart. Clerics of Beauty bring joy and hope to the world. They are the beacon of light that reminds us that some things are worth fighting for. They seek to bring peace and amity among the world’s folk. They fight only when they must, and prefer to use their magic to end fights with as little bloodshed as possible.
Beauty Domain Spells Cleric Level Spells 1st charm person, heroism 3rd enthrall, suggestion 5th beacon of hope, hypnotic pattern 7th charm monster, compulsion 9th dominate person, hold monster Beauty’s Refuge Starting at 1st level, your mere presence is enough to inspire hope and determination in others. When you complete a short or long rest, up to 12 allies of your choice gain temporary hit points equal to your Charisma modifier (minimum 1).
Rebuke the Defiler When you select this domain at 1st level, you gain the ability to rebuke those who lash out at your in violence. As a reaction when a creature you can see within 30 feet of you inflicts damage, you force that creature to make a Wisdom save. On a failed saving throw, it takes psychic damage equal to the damage dealt. On a successful save, it takes half that damage. If the creature made multiple attacks, select one attack to determine the damage dealt. If the creature used one or more effects that damaged multiple targets, choose the damage take by one of those targets from one of the effects. Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again until you complete a short or long rest.
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Channel Divinity: Beauty’s Truce Starting at 2nd level, you can use your Channel Divinity to quell the flame of violence. As an action, you force all creatures within 100 feet of you to make Charisma saving throws. Each creature that fails this saved is charmed by every other creature that also failed the saving throw. This benefit lasts for one hour. While charmed by this ability, creatures consider all other creatures charmed by it to be their allies. They fight to defend them from attackers. While this ability persists, absent any threat creatures charmed by it will rest, talk among themselves, share stories of their lives, create a communal feast using food and drink they carry, and generally act as if they are old friends, long separated and brought together again for a joyous reunion.
Superior Refuge Starting at 6th level, the temporary hit points granted by your Beauty’s Refuge ability increase to 5 + your Charisma modifier (minimum 1).
Potent Cantrip Starting at 8th level, you add your Wisdom modifier to the damage you deal with any cleric cantrip.
Soul of Beauty Starting at 17th level, you become an avatar of unearthly beauty. Your enemies attack with uncertainty, fearful of damaging the wondrous being they behold, while your magic draws upon your presence to augment its power. As a reaction, you can impose a penalty on a creature’s attacks against you or on its saving throws against your spells and abilities. This benefit lasts until the end of the current turn. The penalty equals your Charisma modifier (minimum 1). pic.twitter.com/DbA9MrPEzP

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

The basic design conceit – give the player the option to turn ANYTHING into a roleplay encounter.

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

Question on Rebuke Defiler.

If the damage over your Max HP, does it reflect back ALL damage, or just up to what your HP was? I’d run with all damage – the system does care about the overage, since it might instant kill, so that’s not dropped

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

[Soul of Beauty] says:
“As a reaction, you can impose a penalty on a creature’s attack roll against you [….] This benefit lasts until the end of your current turn.”

So this feature doesn’t function against anything but Opportunity Attacks? ‘your’ should be ‘the’

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

Have you play tested Beauty’s Truce? Do they lose their old allegiances, even if they favour their new as it were? Does it just resolve into a three way fight?

— James Green (@Jim1810) July 8, 2018

None of this has seen play. Darkness and Destruction written Thursday and Friday night, fell asleep at my keyboard on both. Beauty written in between taking the cat to the vet and getting ready for a party this evening. So, use at your own risk until I make revisions. https://t.co/c6Zp4rZMNV

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

Summon Monster – The Mike Mearls Happy Fun Hour!

July 26, 2018Zoltar Leave a comment

hello hey twitch welcome back to the mic Merle’s happy fun hour I am your host Mike morals I am the franchise creative director on Dungeons & Dragons and this week we have something kind of fun to talk about so they call me Tim you took dad to off took time off work early for this why hope it lives up to it because I think this is gonna be really fun so the last week we did some monsters before that we did some monsters and week before that we did psionics and as part of psionics we talked about doing class the shaper that could create like creatures kind of like something so the I was thinking a lot about summoning and if you remember right I was looking at the summoning spells like like the casting time is often like a minute and it seems kind of random what you get and so I decided hey would it be interesting to try to tackle somebody named there’s sort of a different route the we all said a bunch of announcements yesterday rabbinic and Oberon so that’s all I get me excited and I’ve got this so in chat if you guys have questions about ever on it in rabbika I don’t wanna try to hit them here because I want to focus on what I’m doing game design wise here feel free to get me on Twitter I’m at Mike Merle’s or if you have questions they go ahead and chat just talk amongst ourselves I’m gonna try not to dwell on those though because I don’t want I know some people they call me tomu took time walk off work early for this hopefully this being the design of summoning and pet stuff so I don’t want to like it too distracted and if you’ve watched the stream you know I’m easily distracted I am actually chaotic neutral that is my actual alignment so I don’t want to go wandering off too far but um yeah so if you’ve got questions feel free to hit me up on Twitter and obviously in Chad just just chat if you guys our questions answered back and forth I don’t want to go too uh we should we should probably do something on settings and stuff at some point but the I don’t want to go too far off so game Phantom DM we are back on the Sion somewhat indirectly because I think we’re going to spend the entire hour talking about summoning and then indirectly talking about pets and how those can work because I wanted the I wanted to make sure the soundex worked really well with this idea of summoning and creating you know creatures with sonic energy and it’s obviously sending them out your enemies having them do stuff you know a summoning approach it’s a bit more flexible than what’s in the players in book right now kind of tank with the idea of actually building a druid subclass the shaman to show this off but I don’t think we need to do that because I think we just need to walk through how I want to approach something lying faith question here will there be more key in warlock spell casting classes respects maybe um the probably those will just end up within those classes the monk using key the warlock using ink you know a short rest recharge on spell slots we definitely have a real compelling reason to build an entire new class when that chassis is already there often we can get that effect by using with subclasses even within other classes so and this is something here where this is gonna work within our spell slot system so I’m gonna address it purely with in terms of just a generic summoning spell and what that might mean so the game phantom this is more like a new spell that would just slot straight into the game it exists so it’s gonna be we’ll see it’s not really it’s not meant to replace what’s in there in the players handbook it’s make to complement because it’s gonna take a little bit of a different approach so you can see looming behind my head and coming into view is this spreadsheet I poked away at this last night because I had this really useful potentially we’ll see chat you might hate this then well no it’s not useful but this revelation about summoning and there’s a table the Dungeon Master’s guide that it’s this table right here coincidentally enough I happen to have a copy on my desktop the that tells you what I spell slot of a given level is worth in terms of damage and what is interesting here is that this doesn’t apply just damage it applies to healing and so I was stuck in traffic yesterday I’m thinking about this and it’s really hot up here in Seattle and I’m stuck in traffic cuz I completely screwed up and went the wrong way there’s a street shutdown and for some reason I’m driving toward that Street rather than away from it because I’m just being stupid and I realized wait a second these dimmers also apply to healing healing does just hit points coming back into the system and the characters who can think of it as a system of hit points they take damage hit points get knocked out we throw a healing spell we put it spit points back in your maximum hit points are sort of your ceiling you can’t get too many hit points pop a blob well these could just be the hit dice or hit points for a summoned creature and then some of those dice could just be the damage that that summoned creature does and since remember when we were talking about monsters we said look really we kind of expect a fight to last for three rounds three rounds is long enough that it can feature multiple abilities off work off a character or monster it’s short enough that it feels kind of predictable we can just take your top three most powerful things once a fight goes to four more rounds there’s enough randomness and you’re probably dealing with a big in a fight and big enough area that’s it starts to if you try to model that out too precisely you just end up with very very scripted feeling system so we just really look at your top three things and go from there well that’s actually kind of a nice thing because I only have to worry about those first three rounds of damage if you get more rounds that’s just bonus you know well played so what we’re looking at and rad like asks the question how do we use multiple summons love bogging down the action economy I try to think of that too and I think I have an answer but we’ll see we’ll see we’ll see so okay the what this revelation meant was you could take a first level spell slot and say hey this could summon a creature that has one D ten hit points that’s it’s hid died and over the course of three rounds does a total of one D ten damage no that’s a that’s like whoa hey that could totally work no that’s kind of a lame creature though right one D ten damage it’s like five point five on the average over three rounds that’s less than two points of damage great I summon something with like sixty points that if it hits those two points of damage hurray summoning right like that that’s not exciting then I thought of sanics we’ve talked about Sonic’s being able to label ladle on more slots on two one effect to change it make it more powerful so what if we instead said hey I want some of the creatures so I spend a first little spell slot to create that creature summon it it’s kind of weak it’s whatever it is it’s got one D 10 hit died and it’s doing two dansk around then I threw another switch first of all spell slot on it to augment it now maybe it’s doing four damage per round it has 11 hit points instead of five five or six and then it started to make sense to me okay so I have a creature I’m summoning and I can just put more spell slots into it to make it more powerful just like we talked about doing with psyonix right I have a if you’ve missed the sonic streams we talked about doing was having this set of can trips that required concentration and while you’re concentrating on that can trip you can expend spell slots to generate new effects either completely new effects or in this case I might have a canned trip level summon is my imaginary friend so I kind of thought of it shows up and then I spend my spell slots to get my imaginary friend more hit points and better attack give him special effects or benefits things like that so there we go yeah and Mad Hatter up yet and this is probably some sort of bonus action effect right like I just do it ladle it on top but also I’m doing my critter runs and does things and I’m still using spells because this takes concentration I’m not I don’t have the full access to everything I could do and there we go it starts to keep things a little bit simpler and then since I’m expending my spell slots there’s a clear cost for this if I just want to summon a monster in our creature whatever and say hey I just want you to block this door if remember we talked about this last week this is one of the over couple weeks ago the the real tricky thing about pets and monsters is battlefield control it’s not necessarily the damage output it’s not necessarily you know the effects they bring with them though it can be if there’s that does happen but the real thing that happens is you can summon a creature and then just block off part of an encounter area you can you know you can summon a creature to have a ghost scout ahead you can have it summon a creature have a ghost set off a trap and it’s a it’s a 10 D 10 damage trap well my three hit points summon creature goes triggers it gets killed whatever is just a personal spell side I don’t care I move on the and that’s kind of what okay so this is actually now there is more of a cost to it rather than what is maybe happen if something in the past so going back the trap example what you might do is I’m gonna summon eight little creatures now I’ve got eight little trap trigger guys I can deploy the next eight traps we are we have a get-out-of-jail-free cards for them so this is a way in which hopefully we can make summoning really fun and compelling but happy appropriately costed and then what I actually like about is I thought about it you know that emotional level of the design and playtesting will tell will tell us if this actually works but I like this idea that I summon a thing and then it’s like I have a relationship with it I can give it abilities its Politan really hurts well I’m gonna spend a spell slot to give it some more hit dice that’ll increase its maximum and current hit points that’s why I imagine so my summon creatures guarding the doorway and the orcs trying to batter through and he gets really beaten up okay great my turn bonus action either a third level slot on it give him five D ten more hit points and then I fire bolt the orc in the face is trying to get through you know things like that and then my summon creature takes his turn and smacks the orc you know things like that so that is kind of the idea here that could also apply to a pet creature though I’m not gonna worry about the pet right now I really want to focus on the summoning somebody and how that might work so what I think this is to start with I’m gonna make a spell so but I haven’t made a spell on stream before and I don’t like making us what I don’t like that only it’s not expensive I’ll be honest with you had only designing spells so that spells the game’s like hundreds of them why do I need more right the the incremental benefit of one spell when you’ve like 5,000 in the game is just tiny right compared to like adding a new class we only have like twelve so but we’ll do this and I’m gonna kind of write this out I have my word document here what I want to do is call up DNA beyond because when you’re designing something we never we never assume we remember we always assume we’re gonna forget so we always go back and we look at what exists and make sure we’re getting it right so what I want to do here is just look at all my spells I’m just gonna grab a summoning spell at random right well nice things on Deenie beyond is that I can go to my advanced filters go to tags and I’m pretty sure I’ve got a summoning tag handily and quite usefully added and then I’ll just come down here and go both my spells let’s see what we got all right and so I’m gonna grab now want this be a bonus action no there’s no bonus action summoning spells in the game right now so I’m just going to grab the closest element I’m gonna stay away from the the grave the demon spells just cuz I know those come with a cost the so I’m gonna throw up here and go hey look we got Condor animals is one action great boom so I’m gonna use this as my guide now make this at the actually wearing two columns so we should be fine okay I’m gonna try to keep an eye on where my head is so actually know what I’ll just reverse these because the spell is not as important as the so what I want I’m just gonna call this monster summoning or I guess we do like verb than thing that’s coming out of it so I’m now gonna murder our format because I forget what the actual format looks like the I’ll clean it up so summon monster this is when you spell that scales up just like a lot of our spells do we imagine miss a lot of that connect spells come in at low levels and scale up this would be the same thing the you know actually it’s really fun to consider like this format is not the permit we use in our book so I’m just gonna make something up the information is going up on screen will see it it’s it’s cool I’m a professional don’t worry the is I find it weird sorry the comic tome and see this is funny once i like call it someone like i keep seeing the thing yeah psychokinesis Terkel apathy those are act we did touch on those the question is why haven’t i touched those yet those when we did do the wizard one i touched on that a bit it’s interesting cuz it’s not really something that is like massively new but it gets into the what i want to talk in with sign axes like this solve summoning solve the things that are like we can’t do right now then everything else will fall into place so the only take a quick looks you have any questions so far so then make sure I’m not lying the fake up a question show the very to really be we work and said you should the Beastmaster me work that’s an interesting you know it might be the depend on this expiration we might find there’s a better way to approach the Beastmaster style design and just do a new subclass which would actually solve a lot of our the issues that we see monka for ailments rework I don’t you know I think it’s more likely and the chamber warlock – something falling under here what I would want to do let’s say I do this stuff and it’s amazing I never was like this is how everything should be done from beginning this is the most likely just to end up in new options you can add to the game we’re trying to avoid going back and rewriting the players handbook we’ve sold a lot of players handbooks and we don’t want to create a disconnect in the audience whenever possible we can solve a problem by offering you a new feature that can rest aside the existing features but that’s hitting the target of what people want that I feel is a good good path forward and as I mentioned went back we’re looking at the Ranger if we had something which we felt really was just a pure replacement we would try to get that out there for free right we wouldn’t expect you like hey you really like playing like you know the Beast Master Ranger you really like it but you’re really frustrated we’ll make it available to through DMS Guild and through DDD Beyond without charge because we that’s kind of a make good you know we kind of promised you you could play this and if you’re trying to play it and you’re frustrated by it we don’t you feel like oh now you have to go buy this book to make the game work you know that that’s never feeling we want people to have so the it is funny – they can we think of things that are broken one thing I will say I was making up some pre gen characters over the weekend and you know I know the champion is a design that I’m not necessarily crazy about and I know people have some issues with but I made like a half work champion and you know a half work on a crit gets an extra extra die of damage and that half work champion with a great axe like that’s funny up that’s a go okay this is where this could work you know it’s hard for us to just say like something just doesn’t flat-out work because might be someone out there playing that you know a character who’s built to do crits who’s playing a champion who feels like oh this is great it’s exactly I want I like creating a lot this is really working the but yeah so it’s that we don’t want to just erase things and put new things like putting things alongside then essentially letting the market place you players everyone watching includes me – I play the game and let them just kind of decide what they want so okay so looking down here would be possible some of the creature and just have a really high AC but no attacks like ten eight points it’s High Noon that is a great question because what we want to make sure in this system is we don’t let you change a weakness into a strength by that I mean often in games and we have this concept of hey you give up this to get that which can work as long as the this year giving up is something you value in competitive games what players will always attempt to do is say I want to give up something I don’t care about and get something I really care about so I’m always wary of that approach because it is easy to put yourself in a position of let’s go back my earlier example my summon creatures blocking a doorway I just want to max out it’s it’s AC and it’s hit points and pour resources into that I would want that to be something where you just are expending resources to get that not well normally this is the number of points I’d get for a third level slot but I’m I’m getting that with a first or second level slot because I’ve decided to not give it an offensive upgrade I prefer especially needy to just say this is what this costs and it just you know let’s not attach the drawback to it so try to avoid that because again then you just end up in situations where let’s erase the drawback now I’m ahead of the curve it makes all the sense in competitive games because that’s part of the puzzle but not necessarily doesn’t necessary fit into D&D so I prefer that to be more restrict acting like when you’re playing the game you realize hey we can normally this would be a weakness but because of the situation we’ve engineered through clever play we’ve been able to overcome this drawback so yeah things like you know turning the narrow hallway only one you know the only one monster can approaches at a time things like that it’s more tactical rather than it’s just baked into my character that I just I just have this button I press and this thing happens so okay so let’s talk about the spell so I wanted to be a first level conjuration spell get my formatting everything’s me off because I’m just taking notes here I’ll pretty it up and maybe posted to Twitter probably later on this week the casting time it’s going to be an action to summon and then bonus action Dogman and we want our range you know we don’t want the creature to be like just stuck next to you then it spends its first turn just running up things I think like 60 feets pretty reasonable that’s the range on Kandra animals components verbal and somatic that seems fine duration when the thing pops in I think I want this to be something the basic last 24 hours and it’s gonna be concentration schools give me conjuration get us just notes here attack save there’s nothing damage a factory it’s a summoning so I’m not gonna worry about that and so okay so here’s what we go what I want need to do is the you cast the spell you get a creature you’re going to get a basic creature based on the spell slot then when you add spell slots you get to decide what augmentation you want to give the creature the ICO is the question hell okay that’s I thought this question here the all about the eastwards thing Brian O’Brien gold the CEO of Hazzard was on I did an interview state time to eat sports waste eSports and D&D means more streaming so that’s not it’s just more when you’re on TV live TV give me an interview you’re not gonna take like hey let’s explain everything across the board though an east they will be kind of interesting we were talking about that this morning what would like a battle royale game look like for D&D what we settled on was you get to play as a bunch of monsters so the maybe you start out as a kobold and you level up to like him at should become a beholder or maybe just start as a beholder cuz that’d be fun and then you play all the crazy wacky monsters the anyways the yeah so it’s not like DNA like we don’t see competitive D&D you know it’s not something we see as we wouldn’t do they would just depend on the platform and where we’re trying to go for though uh yeah if people really want to do something along that line and there’s been events you know that people have brought that but yeah it’s not if we did something that it wouldn’t it wouldn’t change the role-playing game the role-playing game is what it is that wouldn’t you know I guess it was less we saw a demand for it people we really want to try this then we try to find a way to make it work so okay so this is basically my skeleton here and so I’m gonna bullet point out so there’s gonna be things you spell slot determines the few effects I’m not gonna start adding layers of bullet points buts gonna be size hit points protects the rest of the stuff will kind of get to will see but this is this is enough for the chassis to build the creature we want the when are the Matt question is this gonna be a concentration loss means monster goes poor a monster goes berserk good goal that’s and should me think okay I think it’d be this concentration I don’t want you just to lose the spell so oh maybe this shouldn’t be a concentration spell you know exercise I think about it I think making this not a concentration spell actually might make more sense because it’s got hit points and someone could just smack it and kill it so I’m gonna take concentration off you know what call me crazy chat go ahead type in I’m crazy but I’m gonna take that off cuz I think it’s unfair if I summon the creature I want to throw a Sheila faith on it why not why can’t I do that I’m not gonna say you can’t I’ll have to play dice to tell me we can the and so the what we got here so then basically what we need to do is take this table that I have in PDF format here and just again I’m just gonna rough out what these things might look like so let’s go over to here it’s your my head my heads clipping the level five and lower off so I’ll just so as a rough estimate I’m just gonna create create really I’m actually you know we’re in hack ville or just hacking around if we actually build a table using the MS or a table tool because those do not transfer over to our layout at all so I’m gonna go full screen so I’m trying to run with the table tool is here we go so obviously I want a table that’s gonna be for cross and let’s just do this number down so spell level sighs uh-huh cancel pit points and then tax and slash damage so what I want to do with this table is just really here I’ll do this oops very quickly translate over this now my head’s in the way so we’ll go over here my giant block yeah there we go so let me walk you through what this spreadsheets doing the I don’t take a quick look any questions in chat let’s see how many summons can I have a good question Beauty do be the UM I think I’m gonna limit you don’t want to start with we’ll start with one and then we’ll see can you do multiple summons the main thing is handling time and then just that area control I’d rather have you scale up a monster size and say now I control more of the battlefield of the counter area rather than say you get like eight summons because it also really can really slow the game down very quickly the be persnickety and I just want to bold this just my things so then we’ll just go hey one two three four five six let’s see it looks like okay cut off a little bit I’ll do the rest we get to it so I think what we want to start with is I just do here it’s gonna start it’s assumed size medium until I have a reason to do otherwise and so then this is our basic entry-level summoned creature so I summon a creature what do I get the augments will use a different table again this is just what kind of Hagin this thing together see what we end up with so looking at the spreadsheet this one I worked on last night I just took spell level I took that table earlier we said we saw how many D tens of damages spell is worth put that here these are our D tens I did not write 15 D 10 because I want to be able to write Excel equations without having to like wear what strip out the D 10 notation so I just threw in the number of D tens here we go we’ll do this this would be clear and then this was an estimate now these numbers are actually a kind of bogus because this is just the assuming all those get get got turned into hit points so it was a deed to D 10 creature it had 98 points I don’t want that I wanted to be 5050 so guess what you get to watch me very carefully right there very complicated Excel equation I know if you can see this what I’m writing is I’m going to multiply the D tens row the number of dice by 4.5 which is a d8 reserved size medium hit die and then I’m just going to divide it by two because basically what I’m doing is I’m splitting in half the value of the spell slot between attack and defense this is a bit bogus because I don’t think my damage I want my damage to scale up that way but it’s a good starting point and then I actually have to do the same thing over here I can’t just whatever we’ll just do this goals gonna take B to multiply it by 4.5 I’ll just use D eights cuz that’s no this is D tens loops look like that and then divide by 2 so this is a sort of total damage output you’d expect the spell to have now because we expect this thing to last three rounds the tip of a fight the we would have divided by three so this is just going to be equals this now that’s a really low number we’re not surprised that’s only a first of all swimming so this gives us our baseline the okay so what we’re looking at here is we’ve got given a spell of level X 1 to 9 if I was just to take the die expression from the dmg the number of D tens that this is worth and then say how many hit points for this thing have and how much damage should it do total and then per round for three rounds and in fact to be fair I should probably actually make this 5 it should just be equal so essentially use some of the creature and it’s going to have hit points and then it’s going to do damage equal to its hit points but we’re breaking that up for three rounds the nice thing about this though is you can see if I have a level one summon it’s gonna have about five or six eight points it’s doing two damage around so it’s like doing a one D for damage with no modifiers we’re got to kind of hack things up it’s not gonna be like a monster in full like minister I’m adding modifiers and whatnot to its damage just again I just want to get this thing a functional I’m not gonna try to get it perfect but that is not necessarily super exciting but it’s a starting point often just getting the first sort of pylons down your foundations there and I can start building on top of it that’s what you need what starts getting interesting to me though is again what I can do to augment these because what I imagine is getting a creature and having it hanging around 24 hours is really good it’s very useful so the and so I imagine is you probably don’t want to invest a couple spell slots into attacks to make this shine now one thing that the members with the keep an idea in context oh and I’m gonna just make it up myself leaning baseline AC speed etc so some point we have to decide what’s our starting point to give you a sort of preview we’d assume that AC should be something reasonable it’s not like oh it’s a c10 that does this expend a spell to make it not terrible it’d probably come in like what I would do is take a look at like what’s a C 15 or 16 to be good starting point that’s what an AC that a lot of characters can hit pretty easily at first level you figure a rogue with leather armor at a deck 16 is gonna have an AC 14 anyone heavy armor is gonna have AC 16 or out of the box 18 with the shield even a wizard or any caster with me armor can hit that so it’s not it’s not that super super crazy the and so with that in mind let’s take a look at the spell progression for let’s say a wizard or let’s say druid right cuz druids and something were a kind of a thing that feels kind of like that somatically feels like you know appropriate that doesn’t matter they all at the same spell progression I just we haven’t talked about the druid in the stream before so why not show the druid off can see this cool art the my head’s not in the way okay so let’s take a quick look at the spell progression so let me see if I can explode this up there we go yeah it looks pretty real so we see a first of all Germans gonna have to first level spell slots by the time you get a third level you for first level on to second level so if we assume that you’re gonna have to invest to spell slots at a minimum you know first of all spell slots just to kind of get something that’s not it can be a bit more active the that seems kind of reasonable around third and fourth levels when you first start actually doing this a lot I’m okay for not doing this at first and second level all that much because when we think of summoning it’s adding complexities of the game it’s giving the party more stuff to do we said it said we have more actions we have more battlefield control which having more people and just gives me more options right you can just get this thing can just it’s it’s another character you get the boss around the other nice thing is we do need have designed the game set first and second that will sugar by go by pretty quickly so I’m not too worried if a lot of casters are waiting now if you are really dedicated to seminole what I probably want to do is create a subclass that in augment your ability to summon and maybe you are the player at first souls just like no I’m spending both my first of all spell slots to summon something and then I might have a class feature depending on the class I’m playing that improves that but but I’m okay with you not being so great at it out of the gate it probably means something like a you know a healing class with summoning like there’s gonna be a natural tension there but that exists anyways you know we don’t assume people are healing we assumed they’re their cannon because they want to we don’t sort of make other things cheaper to encourage you to heal we just make everything cost whaa costs and you decide what you want to do so okay let me do a quick look of questions here the okay so there we go so I feel like that’s a half tease in place so I go back to here and my my table here oops my spreadsheet here and I put this over here if I was just to translate this over I could prop a cat at first level again just going straight by this have a creature with 11 hit points and that’s doing like 1b 4 damage per strike it’s not super good but it could be useful as soon as I get a second level spell slot I’ve got a creature with 90 points now the damage here this is probably a little too well it’s only 2.8 I think back the envelope but I’d want to do is that you’re getting about it know if this a second level spell slots probably get you a d6 we’d probably just round up I’m not too worried about over the course of three rounds or doing an additional 2.1 damage that’s not it’s not the end of the world we don’t we don’t get that finicky it isn’t until level fourth double slot this always throws me off by the way that the that’s a row five little four is getting a d-10 so what that tells me is I’m probably gonna make this you know what I think this is probably maybe even approach you the base summoning spell is gonna give you this things form its hit points and its size and then what I probably want to do then is have an augment to give it an attack because then even at low levels okay this thing’s kind of durable I can still use it to like defend I can still use it to like a lock down an area I can still have it scout ahead things like that the yeah magda but you can stick and drop will someone I just grab them and help out the rest the party grappling in fifth all it does is it reduces your speed to zero it doesn’t give it’s not until you get to the not entangled I was restrained that you’re actually giving out advantage so that’s actually something that could um that could work pretty well okay so here’s what we’re gonna do here we’re gonna blow this is we’re gonna add another column here who fancy when insert a column and then what I want to be able to do is just say total value so what I’m doing is I’m gonna make a column that just shows my total sort of hit point and damage value combined just for use a reference here keep that point duplicate that and rather than just have a raw calculation I want to that want I want a g4 of damage and I’m okay with that being 5.5 coming out of this and want the rest going into head points so I’m just gonna say this is five point five because I what I want to do then say is this equals c2 minus e2 there we go and now I’m getting numbers that look a bit more useful in terms of hit points so scaling up much quicker especially at low levels because I’m keeping my damaged static so this is my damage my total damage takes a big chunk out but then as I just everything else gets pushed over to hit points I see a nice quick bump here so my first of all spot my first of all summons stays the same but my second level summons has 11 hit points for that spell slot and a D for day and it so this is yeah so this feels pretty good if I’m coming with a base summoned creature this is the number of hit points I’m getting on that creature and it’s got a D for attack without a modifier it gets one attack if I want to make it offensive I had to put a spell slot into it if I wanna make a defensive about to put another spell slot into it and defensive imagine would be it has more hit points and maybe has an ability to protect people around it so yeah I kind of like that how do you guys feel about that the they call me tell me why is this someone looking so much phenomenally better than say fine grater steed this isn’t flying on if I remember right from fine grater steed that is flying is very expensive in 5th ed paranthas oom dunder so I can see everything here flying you you get charged a lot to fly that’s why there’s like some DMS really don’t like the Eric okra the they find out yeah it’s just too good at first so a creature that just at first of all can just fly that TRO a lotta DMS really just feels like it’s just – it’s two fleets it’s far too flexible for the party to have access to so when you’re going yes you get a pair eaten I mean you can get a Rhino like so here’s how this spell works you can choose a Griffon a Pegasus or Parrington or you can choose something else really because the flying creatures on the list here it pushes it up the now we look at the saber-tooth tiger this thing has 52 hit points and let’s see let’s actually look at its full step like this is our fourth level spell 52 hit points and it’s dealing 10 damage on a hit okay so 52 and 10 for level 4 let’s look at our spreadsheet level for spell so actually we’re getting this thing is actually coming up behind it so now the other thing to keep in mind here is that this is also a 1-minute spell casting time sorry casting time 10 minutes so you’ve got to be ready like you need a lot of time to bring this thing in the yeah now that is something that we have to keep in mind this is all sort of theory crafting then we have to actually look at the spells that are here the cossack 1:59 you can I summon a level 2 creature but with two levels added to it so here’s how I would want this to work going back to our spreadsheet I cast an initial summoning spell that’s summoning spell based on its level here and is that big enough yet it looks like it’s big enough to OPI chiming in shadow this is big enough cast a spell I pick the the spell slot I want to cast that gives me some initial values I can then expand further spell slots to augment its hit points it’s a it’s attack or them potentially give it other special abilities and I pictures being dynamic that I can probably expend spell slots to essentially yeah peel it there should be a healing effect I can basically replenish its hit points probably to discount because you’ve already committed to the creature to keep it standing so and these would be one action to summon and they act as soon as they show up so the so yeah and it might be beauty by approach it might be the idea ten minutes summon and then you keep it around and then Ahmad wenting is in action will see part of it’s going to come down to how these stack up to everything that’s out there because of the existing you know let’s just do that right now why am I sort of beating on bush let’s reset all our filters then let’s vote you are summoned tagged and let’s just see where we ended up all right I’m gonna choose I’m gonna go with well we have one actually ever Kandra animals its duration is an hour let’s just go challenge two so and challenge two giant boar let’s go the giant boar so an ax murder I forgot what’s fellas level to spell right little three spill some this is what Mike my level three summon currently gets me and hear what I’m saying is 28 hit points and one D for damage so here I’m pretty far by on hit points I’m at 28 verses 42 so this is this armor class is 12 which is lower than what I was looking at as the standard this thing can charge and it’s doing 10 damage on a hit so we’re not super far off we are a little bit behind but we’re not so far off and I’m like oh this is just a bad approach this just needs some more refinement what I suspect is happening here that I’m undervaluing the dislike I’m sorry overvaluing damage right now sticking you in a d4 in a in a vacuum makes sense because I’m just saying hey what’s the mathematical value of this but we have to keep in mind there’s a number of things going on in here this this could be killed so I’ve made an investment for three rounds worth of attacks and I got one we don’t worry about missing because we just kind of assume like we don’t try we don’t normally really like super penalize your offense like your accuracy to give you much bigger damage we do that sometimes it’s not standard typically we just assume a about essentially assuming a plus 3 or plus 4 ability modifier and then the appropriate proficiency bonus based on the character level of the effect so for instance a third level spell we’d assume like okay a fifth level character so proficiency bonus two plus three probably a plus four modifier from a stat so it’s acting its attack when it should be about plus seven so this is probably one thing that’s that I’m off a bit here with this dim it should probably be higher and I’m gonna arbitrarily because there’s nothing nothing more fun than just making arbitrary decisions you know this d4 is probably good here but it’s well but it’s it points are lower there’s a funny thing here it has lower hit points it’s more likely to get splattered but in theory it’s fighting weaker creatures so less likely to kill it one blow but that probably tells me these are probably like it might have to start higher and not scale up as quickly because even like me with 44 hit points for the fifth able spell there aren’t too many things unless you’re really focusing fire typically your tax get broken out rather than just being one big attack that deals 44 you’re dealing like four attacks that do 11 each at like you know see our nine creatures and that in that neighborhood so it’s gonna hit you with everything or two hits in a crit thereabouts so it’s a very long way of saying I think that this damage has to start higher and can scale up slowly because the threat of the creature getting struck down in one round does go down a little bit as I go up in level so I’m gonna get more reassured payback on my my investment for three rounds of damage so I’m gonna arbitrarily do this this is always this is a fun thing that’s when you’re like doing some real deep game design I do this I’m just gonna peg the damage at d6 to start with I mean sometimes you just sort of like you take an estimate and it you see where it goes let’s do one d6 let’s do one D 8 D 1 D 10 and let’s keep it at 1 d 10 for a few levels let’s go up to 2 d6 again this is just back the envelope right here it’s the Wild West but I had that to me starts to be more of a reasonable thing we might even want to add your caching ability mod to this because we might find it’s just not quite having the impact we want again we had while this is the strict map mathematical reflection of the value it’s not capturing the context again you could just kill the creature then you’ve lost your investment the and the important thing there is that’s an opportunity cost the monster has attacked the creature rather than attack a party member which is nice but that could also be an AoE that’s capturing the creature regardless so there’s really is no opportunity cost there and you have spent a spell slot on it so you should get some more reliable return on your investment unless the enemy is also using for instance a counter spell or a disability they’re burning a limited resource to deal with it so it’s not an exact thing you know this is gonna be kind of one of the things we get to kind of look at it and get a sense of the feel of how this is gonna play out what typically happens my experience is you kinda have this phase to start the math you go to this phase where chuckling dealing what feel then you’re gonna loop back to the map once you start actually playing and you just yeah this is kind of thing it’s gonna feel too good or too weak and then you’ll take a look at the math and you’ll see okay here’s where it’s happening we need to bump this up by a kadai or bump it down by a couple points so the okay so we have here a model we have here a creature that I can get with a third level spell I’m looking at my third level spell here and seeing one d-10 damaged it’s not too far off it’s like half the damage here again this guy might be a little inaccurate compared to where this guy is gonna end up but we are we are not home yet but we’re in the right neighborhood so I feel like that’s a pretty good starting point so then what I want to do is what I imagine how the spell will work is let us be a table you have a stop lock and then you have a table that’ll tell you here the pieces to drop in so any questions so far let’s see where we got here the well pokeballs comes an arcane focus our train Derek I guess they could write the over super you skip what you also can’t buff a conjurer element with other spells that’s right because you’ve got if I remember right these summons are concentration so that is also a benefit you’re getting with this spell so and again that’s one of those things that you can’t really put a hard cost on it too easily you’re you can’t put a hard cost on it that is it cost the system math tells you you have to kind of estimate it based on your field all right so the tennis Toto summoners con mod to hit point and in modded image yeah I think will do something like that I like the feeling of like that your ability scores matter and so I think it might just be casting stat all the way around because I just might be a little easier that is a bigger number it might distort the hit points here but we have ways which we can kind of if we’re using hit dies can kind of decrement those a little bit to account for a mod coming in that’s also why we wouldn’t well we wouldn’t a Sarah want to use two mods like say hey it’s your casting mod for this and your con mod for that because that’s less predictable and if this is something it’s me very signature for people we want the nature the effect to be fairly predictable in the sense of I just seem a summoning druid I just max on my wisdom I know my summons are gonna be as tough and is damaging as they need to be I don’t then have to because of a spell and start thinking of another ability score that’s why in fifth edition if you’re a wizard and you make an attack with a spell user intelligence modifier rather than your dexterity and three five used your dexterity but what it meant was kind of hidden within the game you had to figure out that if I was going to take scorching Ray that I needed a good dexterity to actually make that work the so we wanted to move away from that but just keeping things more straightforward so okay they call me Tommen would disavow magic and this yeah it actually it would the as written right now and you know I’d have to think about what we’d want to do the one where II there would be I stack multiple slots into it to some of the creature and then one spell counters act that might not be what we want so don’t think about it it is a little bit so alright so the what might be to speak you know I could this is something I could imagine easily is that what it might do is might dispel one of the effects on it and you have to like you take out each spell at a time the but that’s something which we do more in the refine in phase so this is a half-decent starting point I’m comfortable here using this I am just gonna throw in these numbers here for now my notes my spreadsheet to refer to needless to say this is something we require a lot of testing the it’s a great example of something where math well mathematical analysis of system is very good if you’re dealing with two existing practices because that’s a like versus like we’re dealing with something that’s doing something essentially completely new or the comparisons like the existing summoning spells are so different that you can’t be confident that that is a one-to-one relationship it gets a little bit harder to just sorta to theory craft that’s a theory crafting is very useful it gives you a very good starting point especially for what your issues might be but it doesn’t it’s more theory crafting is very good to determine what you’re now going to argue about then rather necessarily tell you what the answer is the but like I said it’s still it’s very it’s a useful tool to have I’m gonna keep this damaged these hit points where I’m just sort of charging you 5.5 total damage even though this is going up again that’s kind of reflecting my I think that this initial approach was under was attaching too much value was overvalued undone driving over valuing the damage output from the summon creature so I’m gonna let that slide I’m not going to try to try to tank with eight points so I’ve got my raw numbers up here still well I think I’m not too worried about this because I look at like the second double spell slot 11 hit points with one d8 damage that’s essentially a first little character get swatted down in one hit pull out of the time but I think I’m okay with this because I think I’m okay if the typical operating procedure is you want to put two spell slots into this to get something that’s gonna be really durable for your your group the so I think I’m okay with that so now I want to add another column here know what ten minutes okay good oh let’s see let’s insert a column to the right and I’m gonna call this points this is pretty simple what we want to say is how many if I expend a spell slot to buff my summon creatures hit points how many points are to get and that’s really easy cuz it’s this column right here right it’s just the numbers right there so I’m just gonna try this a little voodoo and I try to copy a page between programs and see what happens there girls just did it so that’s just how many points you should get we talked with buffing damage this is probably where we need to be a little more precise so I am once again I don’t need this what I’m going to do is I’m gonna change this so instead of dividing my my leftover damage by three I’m just gonna divide the total value of the spell by three and see what like that number okay and I’m seeing some numbers here that already make me pretty happy so the because they are and they are sort of human readable numbers I got a three point seven is great that’s a d6 so the sort of column to the right that’s really tiny because of my thing watching me resize do it this is why it tune in right to watch me move there we go let me buff damage and so if if it’s first level spell saw it gives me three points seven days per round that’s easy that’s plus twenty six it’s my tax in additional d6 damage five point five that’s easy that’s plus one need ten now we start getting these bigger numbers what I’d like to do is since I’ve got I know I’m doing I might start giving you extra attacks so I know that the let’s see 9.2 that’s still it’s gonna say plus 2 D 10 well now I can’t because it the next it’ll cost you 10 I don’t want to give you a tax a lot of extra tax until a higher level that’s to d8 so anyways that’s math we can go through the interesting thing will be once we get up to here when I’m doing 28 extra damage per round I probably want to start making this extra attacks and extra damage and that’s to avoid just the wif factor the one thing that would then say is I can’t throw in a buff that gives me a bunch of extra tax then thrown another buff that further increases my damage so we probably need a rule that says if you apply a buff you use the biggest buff rather than just you can stack all these up we wouldn’t want to do is say like I just pour a ton of low-level slots into a monster my summoned creature now it’s just doing ungodly damage you know it might overshadow the rest of the party so I think what I think we could do is also put it a spell level cap on it you could say for instance if the number gets too big over here we’ll just start saying look you can only go up to a fifth level it’s a little too good to give you this damage all the time because it’s gonna last I mean I’m projecting for three hours per fight but I know ideally if you’re playing smart you want to keep this around for a long time you’re good it’s an interesting thing we’re sort of plays skill we’ll get a better value return here I don’t want to let that return get out of hand so and once I’m seeing plus 2d ten damage on top place so it’s 3d ten damage per hit here that doesn’t feel noxious that feels like okay I feels pretty good I’ve invested a fourth levels two fourth of all spell slots to get this that feels okay but I don’t want these to start turning into this thing is just a you know the damn it starts to feel out of control so okay so let’s take a look at fifth that’s a fourteen point seven damage that’s plus 46 I wanna try to keep it to one attack to so I can avoid that stacking yeah okay I’ve just talked myself into an out of giving this thing multiple attacks especially for handling time I’m okay if you get a little unlucky and you get stuck with okay this thing just whiffed and did no damage I’m okay with that because you know this is something it’s gonna stick around for a while and you’ll have an opportunity next round to have it punch someone else so MD sir ah gee maybe limit limit the duration of the augmentation perhaps I do kind of like the idea that I just alter the stop block then I don’t worry about it again but yeah but that’s something that is actually good lever to have if we find it’s getting out of control we can we can flip that over so I had a fan question can other spells affect this yes enlarge reduce haste slow I’d expect this should be a creature that I can throw their spells on tower mirror thoughts on actual creature type summoned thinkin it might be you know I could see four druids at their beasts I could see four Wizards their elementals I really would want the flavor to drive that so let’s see this is oh yeah this was supposed to be for the shaper so that would yeah the sonic version a probably construct the yes and barracks silver bird this is the shaper Sion this is essentially the spell we’re building out that the shaper is gonna use and that we could potentially adapt to a summoning spell for other casters too let’s see um let’s see what that could think about here anybody questions um does this end on a long rest or can I sleep with it guarding and regain the slots probably I would do is specify that it ends with a long rest the Jessie you’re not carrying it over probably with the began the nice thing is you could have it just keep guard yeah so I’d probably if you if you take a long rest you regain your spell slots that that breaks the duration the yeah so this is okay cool oh it’s in my head to the way the bottom table you let’s swap these over so yeah okay you can see the full table here so yeah kind of think and stop here and it’s one thing which probably do is I thought I would let you buff hitpoints and probably I’m okay with you pouring lots of spell slots to increase its hit points because the what I often find for players in DMS things that feel broken to them are things with more extreme burst potential doing 100 points of damage in a single attack as opposed to the fighter model which is just consistency and giving you more hit points lends itself more consistency you know I can hold down this area I could block the story for a long while well the party hides behind the creature of things like that the saw I think I’ve earned the side of making it more durable rather than letting it just throw out tons of damage the oh and the I hit 24 yes okay probably iterations probably 24 hours or a long rest so whichever comes first the will it be able to go get talk about the Vienna document I think well that’s kind of funny things I think you’d want it to be like pretty independence you can have a go around and do stuff because in I feel like oh I’ve got my pot of summoned paddock and go do stuff for me you can clean my room right the so yeah the will the be any way to add special features monster with just basic attacks nothing else is pretty boring honestly yeah that is exactly what I’d want to do and that’s where I would see the shaper effects coming in we talked about things like I’m not giving people motion sickness by going up and down this file um like the vision I had the kind of the iconic thing was the shaper looks across the room into the eye of the you know the ogre chieftain and plucks out his greatest fear and then shapes a creature summon creature that looks like that thing and the ogre chicken screams in terror right so definitely and that’s where I see a lot of the additional spells on the spell list for the shaper being these augments what I wanted to build today was just the basic chassis to get a snap lock in your hands for summon creature so this is a pretty good starting point we’ve got our weight and I think that this spell comes with buffing damage and buffing hit points and I imagine when you throw a buff hit point on the creature you’re increasing its current in maximum it’s probably another column here that’s a healing column where you might get this at a bit of a discount it might shift up one column that might be too good the but you’re probably if you’re not increasing your maximum you’re just filling back up to it I think it’s me worth of it more than this the yum this might be something where you also you only take the highest one you’ve given like the damage I can’t do 46 then pop two for several slots ditional to d6 so that would make the healing a bit more useful the human owe to someone who’s is yeah I think this was kind of a fun thing is now as I’m thinking about it is there might be ways to like essentially put templates on these things and it might be you could learn them by class you can learn them at a spell you learn like there could be someone who’s there could be summon beast and then you get some basic flavorful elements like the use might be its basic attack is acid the beasts would be like your choice of bludgeoning piercing or slashing so I think it’s probably like this chassis would then get adapted yeah that might make a lot of sense where the shapers might be like some an astral construct and it gives you a construct with some basic thing maybe it’s doing a psychic damage with its attacks and then we can make one for Druids you can make for druids could have summon beast and like maybe summon totem wizards could get like summon elemental source wizards and sorcerers warlocks could get like summon fiend and then you get some other cool effects I really want this in my game now I really want this in my game that’s the fun thing about it is you could really gate access to the spell through subclasses or through choices so how do you feel about this everyone feel like this is making sense does this feel like a good place to start I mean obviously the math I just can’t I just want to get in the neighborhood it’s not necessarily coming home yet the zones fact meeting right who’s that ever again it’s not concentration barbarians okay now I want to make that we did that remember the disaster barbarian we had this idea that he could like summon creatures like I loved it the Barbarian radio is like a fire lentil appears around him it’s just someone oh and I actually want to I want to design that okay okay so I think we’re pretty good okay so this is something where we’re gonna play around with it yeah alder brain warlock could summon a gaze to see is a child our King Butterfree thanks always appreciate the compliments okay cool I think yeah I was to me this is something I get excited this at the stage in design when it’s like I want to make a bunch of things using this the danger is you don’t want to fall so in love with this that you just then start charging forward even as cracks start to appear so this is something where playtesting is really going to start giving us some proof points here and while I let’s say this is this is something I was working on like a product at this stage I’d want to just like stop make the simplest implementation of this table and the spell you see and do some testing with it just build out what are these stat blocks look like look at them compared to think this is when you have to don’t rush ahead don’t start getting the specific concepts of cause I’m in fiend 7 news someone this and that some and everything right we want to take a moment go duh is this a strong foundation let’s bang on this a bit do these numbers hold up does this feel good in play then put the energy indeed those flourishes don’t don’t start decorating the cake before it’s baked right you don’t want to like you’ve got your batter and it’s cooking you’re throwing the frosting and the decorate now it’s gonna be a mess so let give it time let it bake it’s you know if if you watch baking shows or you know it’s like baking it’s been more art than science or is it the reverse either way give it time give it time in the oven put the hard work into it test it out don’t what often I find was and designers have problems is they fall in love with an idea they throw a ton of work into it too early they haven’t proved out the basic foundation so they throw in all this flourish work and then they start throwing good good effort after bad it’s a path that really like no it’s time to fall back and take a new route beef like I put so much work into a nod I’m throwing all this stuff out you want to be cautious at the initial stages of this design it’s good that I’m feeling excited but it’s also a warning sign that I need to make sure I pump the brakes don’t get too far ahead of myself and make sure I’m doing the frankly it would be kind of boring work of verifying that this is functional it probably needs some more tweaks but before I start going hog-wild with it I’ve got to make sure that I’ve got a strong foundation of building on all right yeah shell off the magnanimous sunk cost fallacy but in design exactly so so that’s it for this week next week we’ll pick this up this coming actually I think I’m on the next segment for the stream we’re gonna talk about the founders of legends day this coming weekend on Saturday I’m going on to LA to stream another D&D game not quite following up with the same basic concept as the stream of many is we’re gonna be celebrating the legacy and memory of Gary Gygax and other folks who helped create Dungeons and Dragons so I’m super excited I’m gonna probably have to go next door to start streaming over there I try to get a lot of water first though I am partial as they say so um I will see you all next week and on Twitter if I have any more breakthroughs with this stuff I’ll tweet I’ll tweet them out I made a Mike mortal soul one word all right so until next week take care and I will see probably a few even just a couple six around I’ll just see you in a couple more minutes so take care

UA Destruction and Darkness domains for clerics!

July 20, 2018Zoltar 1 Comment

Requests for Darkness and Destruction. Working on Moon, conceptually trickier, want to hit the right tone with that one. Maybe tomorrow. Destruction Domain
Custom built for clerics of Grummsh, and perhaps Tiamat
Destruction Domain Spells aeric Level spells 1st inflict wounds, wrathful smite 3rd enlarge/reduce, shatter 5th fireball, lightning bolt 7th ice storm, staggering smite 9th doud kill, destruct. wave Armed for Destruction When you choose this domain at 1st level, you gain proficiency with martial weapons.
Destructive Fury Starting at 1st level, you can channel divine energy to enter a destructive frenzy. As a bonus action, you gain 5 temporary hit points and a +1 bonus to weapon damage rolls. This benefit lasts for one minute. Once you use this ability, you cannot use it again until you complete a short or long rest. When you use this ability, you can expend a spell slot to augment its effects. You gain additional temporary hit points equal to three times the sloes level and a bonus to weapon damage rolls equal to half the sloes level (minimum 1). This benefit lasts for one minute.
Channel Divinity: Sundering Invocation Starting at 2nd level, you can use your Channel Divinity. to channel destructive energy. As an action, you touch a creature or a an unattended object within reach. A creature must make a Constitution saving throw, taking 5 times your cleric level thunder damage on a failed saving throw and half as much on a successful one. An unattended object takes 5 times your cleric level thunder damage.
Appetite for Destruction Starting at 6th level, your destructive acts fuel further expressions of devastation. If you kill a creature or destroy an object with a weapon attack, you can use your reaction to immediately make one additional weapon attack.
You can use this ability a number of times equal to your Wisdom modifier (minimum 1). You regain all expended uses when you complete a long rest.
Divine Strike Starting at 8th level, you gain the ability to infuse your weapon strikes with divine energy. Once on each of your turns when you hit a creature with a weapon attack, you can cause the attack to deal an extra 1d8 thunder damage to the target When you reach 14th level, the extra damage increases to 2d8.
Hand of Devastation Starting at 17th level, your spells deliver exceptional power. When you roll damage for a spell, roll twice the listed number of dice. You then choose from among the rolled dice the results you wish to use to determine the spell’s damage. You must select dice that match the quantity and type normally rolled to determine the spell’s damage.

Darkness Domain
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Custom built for clerics of 4clis, and perhaps Lolth.
Darkness Domain Spells Cleric Level Spells ist arms of Mg”, hex 3rd blindness/deafness, darkness Sth fear, vampiric touch 7th blight, Cvard’q black tentades 9th contagion, enervation Child of Night When you choose this domain at 1st level, you gain the chill touch cantrip. If you do not have darkvision, you gain it with orange of 30 feet Shield of Ineffable Darkness Starting at 1st level, you can invoke the power of darkness to punish anyone fool enough to harm you. As a reaction when a creature you can see damages you, you cause that creature to become blinded until the end of your next turn. Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again until you complete a short or long rest.
Channel Divinity: Shadow Spawn Starting at 2nd level, you can use your Channel Divinity to fade into the darkness. As a bonus action, you become a creature of darkness that can blend into the shadows. You gain advantage on all Dexterity (Stealth) checks. If a creature cannot see you, your spells and attacks deal maximum damage to them. The shadows seem to draw around, as if they seek to protect you. This benefit lasts for one minute.
Hungry Darkness Starting at 6th level, your Shield of Ineffable Darkness becomes more powerful. When you use it, you can select up to three additional, hostile creatures you can see within 30 feet of you. They are also blinded until the end of your next turn. Potent Cantrip Sorting at 8th level, you add your Wisdom modifier to the damage you deal with any cleric cantrip.
Soul of Darkness Sorting at 17th level, you gain strength from darkness. As a bonus action, you fade into the shadows. You regain hit points equal to your cleric level and gain resistance to all damage for one minute. In addition, while this duration lasts you can use a bonus action to teleport up to 30 feet to an unoccupied space you can see that is in dim light or darkness. pic.twitter.com/iewjiEVdvq

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

Hand of Devastation is simultaneously confusing, too good, and too weak. Might make it much lower level. Basic idea – roll twice the dice, pick the highest half for each die type. Felt pretty chaotically destructive to me, might knock it down to 1st level, since it just scales up

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) July 8, 2018

The Mystic Class – The Mike Mearls Happy Fun Hour!

June 8, 2018Zoltar Leave a comment

hey everyone and welcome back to the
micros happy fun hour I’m your host Mike
Murrells franchise creative director for
Dungeons & Dragons I and if maybe
perhaps and we watched the stream of
many I is the last you saw of me on this
stream I was having my three shadow
dragons and my minions of a I guess I
won’t try to beat around the bush of
Vecna who is lurking out in the negative
Material Plane fell to the combined
efforts of four mighty 18th all
characters I hope you tune in if you
haven’t if you didn’t turn it in I check
out the videos we have here on twitch.tv
slash D and E to catch up on all the
action I was but one of many Dungeon
Master’s who ran sessions over the
weekend I had a great time I hope if you
had a chance to check to check it out
and tune in that you had fun and so now
I’m kind of riding my post stream of
many eyes hi to roll on in to some more
design work here on psionics and if
you’re looking I mean obviously the
screens up
I see behind my big blocky head we have
the mystic clasp and a blank Word
document well not quite blank it’s blank
say for two words mystic notes so that
might give you a hint as to what we’re
gonna talk about here today chat we’re
actually to talk about the fighter know
the and we’re gonna talk some more about
say onyx hey so hey it’s good to be back
it’s good to be back in the chat you
know tired of the stream was Ord I
actually I flew back yesterday so I had
a chance to get a good night’s sleep it
turns out don’t sleep very well in
hotels but I sleep pretty well when I’m
at home and our Sheltie puppy is jumping
on my head
chewing on my ear so some reason that
was very relaxing I slept very well the
welcome to any new viewers I hope you
have fun essentially our goal with this
stream is for me to show you live the
creation of essentially the first draft
of new stuff for dd5 right now we’re
doing lots of subclasses we’re doing
psionics right now and what we’re gonna
do today is I’m gonna walk through the
mystic character class
I’ll provide a recap of what we done
with sine X so far surfer Nass context
if you’re new viewer not gonna make it
go back and watch all the videos but
what I want to do today is given what
we’ve done so far let’s take a look at
what the state of the mystic last year
at the end of 2017
what we had and what might change as we
look at the subclasses we’ve built so
the so yeah OMI is my audio coming
through I see doom Drake I’m very quiet
guys if you shot if you’re getting
issues we did have we’re running late
because we’re having some issues with
the mic not this mic the mic that
captures the noise I am the mic that
makes the noise at least on this stream
so anyone else having issues with some
audio just chime in on chat Jeremy here
is keeping an eye on things and we’ll
make sure that we’ve got some looks like
okay so may just be my projection – I
did kind of the Southern California very
dry climate now we’re getting some folks
hearing that it’s a little bit quiet so
I will try to project Oh Jeremy’s
getting up this is getting serious now
so people don’t just lose our audio but
I’ll just keep talking so we have a good
testing the smidge quieter than usual
it’s a little quiet how’s it going now
anyone dmn chime in is a spat tk-421 of
you guys is it getting better I want to
see a couple folks who are still a few
things coming in and I’m quiet this
would be now the first hour it’s a bit
quiet for max volume yeah it does looks
like it’s a bit muffled oh okay much
better now it sounds so it sounds like
everyone sitting getting better now
louder better much better better I think
we’re good alright yes better and
clearer heart rate is Derek cuz I’m
gonna turn it down a bit
alright here we go alright you got if
anyone out there in chat just let me
know if my voice starts to tail off
written like that just let us know like
I said we do kind of coming in we’re a
little bit late cuz I the heroes that
support this stream this week it’s
Jeremy well making sure we get getting
everything going and rolling fine
alright so even loud loud even which is
appropriate come in laude knock loud
noxious so
okay excellent all right so I’ll keep an
eye on shad as we go like I usually do
but again just in case any technical
issues just sound off we’ll see what we
can do to fix them up all right
so let’s recap what we’ve done so far
first of all we’ve had a number of
subclasses we’ve built for existing
character classes that are going to use
psionics Oh
share DVI did Scion beat mystic yes it
did so I think it pains me I’m gonna
tell you Chad it pains me I think we’re
gonna call the class to Sion in my
defense I know initially mystic was not
the most popular choice that’s what they
were gonna call the sanic class back in
the 70s but each generation of gamers
gets the D&D that they need so we’ll
pivot to Sion no problem this is kind of
a case to where as a designer and my and
where I’m sitting I can’t really get
attached to names you know we put things
out there often will like the mystic is
a good example of we could have called
it Sion up front we knew that would have
gone over well sometimes it’s best to
test the change even if you’re not
confident in it just because in this
case since we’re play testing it gives
us the chance to see well how would
people react so anyways yeah we’re gonna
call this class the Sion because that’s
what everyone wants and why not do it
that way right make everybody happy
the now it doesn’t mean the mystic can’t
come up somewhere else as a subclass or
is a name but I think one of the pieces
of feedback I got from people was mystic
sound didn’t quite sound like the flavor
of this class and that’s the big thing I
want to talk about today what is the
flavor of this class we’ve walked
through so far and I’m gonna types I
just like typing as I talk someone at
the stream remarked was kind of like Bob
Ross it was soothing as I’m gonna try to
like not get too high energy today but
it also I find as is my type while I’m
going not only do the notes help me but
it is kind of soothing for me Keith keep
the mind focused so we’ve got the
psychic warrior who’s our fighter
psionic fighter we have the soul knife
who’s our psychic monk and we had the oh
now I’m totally blanking we had the the
name of the psionic Wizard was someone
from someone from chat named this class
and I’m forgetting the Mentalist
Mentalist
so essentially we’ve got our classic
telepath we’ve got our sort of you know
an ecologist the psychic martial artist
and we’ve got our psychic bruiser
I think these archetypes are captured
pretty well so far
obviously pending playtesting but I feel
like the the concept behind them fits in
well and so that this is something where
I don’t necessarily feel like we’re
gonna revisit it the specific
implementation might shift but I think
we’re starting to kind of carve out
where these things fit good parallel for
you is the this idea of imagine if we
were inventing D&D from scratch and we
said hey who uses magic right and we had
divine magic in arcane magic and we’re
starting to hold the cleric can heal and
the Wizards more about blasting and the
oh well go on like what about the
warrior mage how do we want to handle
that well that’s maybe you know the
eldritch Knight and the fighter it’s
it’s kind of the process we’re going
through here right now we’re asking
ourselves where do these where these
concepts best served now I’m gonna give
you a little bit of a a forward-looking
thing we you know kind of see where I
think we might go with with subclasses
we talk about a warlock having like a
pact of the missile called the aberrant
just relax by the words but this could
be a warlock has a pact with say like a
AB Aleph or an elder brain so now the
interesting thing about this is I don’t
think conceptually this warlock is
necessarily has a super clear place like
for instance the psychic warrior
imagines we have a lot of abilities that
augment their physical prowess just like
in the wizard spell list we have spells
like shield that are useful for a mage
but also really great for a frontline
warrior so I’m not saying we’re breaking
up lists of spells it’s more saying what
subclass what subclasses within the Sion
so I really need to worry about
supporting so I don’t think the warlocks
poaching any of those within the rogue
I’d like to do there was a class in 3rd
edition called the lurk
and that the kind of way I’ve been
thinking about that character is the
sort of psionic psionic invisibility
this is the character who essentially
erases evidence that they’re around
right their invisibility is more you
don’t perceive them in the sense that
they’re messing with your mental
processes I would imagine this will
probably also lend itself to like I’ve
taken something and you don’t know it’s
gone I open a door and you think it’s
still closed things like that so that’s
kind of where I see that coming in that
sort of information hacking it’s another
thing I kind of thought about it I mean
that’s moving far more science fiction
but it’s that’s kind of the concept the
character who goes in and comes out
without without your knowing and then
looking at the other classes for
barbarian and bard
and like I don’t know if we need sanic
subclasses there there are ones we can
do but the the approach being I don’t
think that they’re gonna intrude on the
course I on class druid so is very same
situation since in such a nature focused
class as with the cleric focused on the
divine I don’t think we necessarily need
that crossover if it’s there it might be
some sort of sonic theme domain for the
cleric it may be aberration theme for
the druid but I don’t think that’s
necessarily taking conceptual space in
the Sion we think of the rest of the
classes the sorcerer and I think the
sorcerer is in a space similar to the
warlock
it’ll probably patterned after something
existing in D&D like aberrations for
instant it would probably more of a look
at the warlock and sorcerer how can they
express that differently and so I think
looking at the classes this is these are
probably the ones so I’m actually gonna
erase warlock not that we’re not gonna
do this but I think what I want to do is
of these four I think these are covering
concepts that I don’t need to cover
directly within the Sion
so yeah in same failure automated air
effect the Ranger a pallid I think it’s
a similar thing if we were to do
something like this it may either be
more response to the flavor around
soundex
or would be taking that existing
character class and finding a way to
express it sonically rather than saying
get think of the eldritch night versus
the wizard we had a long discussion of
should the
warrior mage and the players handbook be
a fighter subclass or a wizard subclass
if you own the Sword Coast adventures
guide you see what the wizard would look
like if you did take that path of the
warrior mage as a wizard subclass with
the Blade Dancer but we felt that was
very realm specific so we’re okay
putting it there we felt the most direct
path for a new player would be llama
warrior first who uses spells also
because if you look at the blade dancers
class features they are require a little
bit more of an advanced sort of grasp of
mechanics like how to make these things
work together where the eldritch night
it’s pretty straightforward you play as
a fighter for your first couple levels
then you pick up a couple of spells and
then you’re going from there
conceptually it’s pretty straight
forward rather than they think of the
resource management when do I use my
blade dance what am I in the front line
what am i in the back how do I manage my
spell list typically mechanical options
that require more of that meta thinking
we see as being the next step beyond the
players handbook the wizard and the sort
of classic I’m the kind of glass cannon
II spell caster
that’s about as techy as we want to get
the players handbook all right so the oh
uh LT virus no sign of healing at all
well no we’ll probably see some flavor
started killing and that’s what actually
a great question – oh it’s blade song
not blade dance did I get it completely
wrong see that’s why I’m the creative
director because now the directive is
please everyone pull out your copies of
sword custom you know I’m horrible with
names
see that’s why changing mystic design
doesn’t bother me because I don’t
remember any way so the but yeah so we
added a question about sonic healing so
what we’re gonna do today and next 40 or
so minutes on a walk through the
existing mystic character class and
we’re gonna we’re not I’m not saying
we’re redesigning the class we’re kind
of redesigning the class oh I think
we’ll probably end up keeping a lot of
this but what I want to do is is touch
on something that C is very important to
tabletop role-playing game design in
specific and role-playing game design in
general
and that’s when you think about it when
you’re designing a role-playing game
there are two main tasks you have in
front of you and I’ll zero in on
tabletop role-playing the first thing
you need to do is determine who are the
players going to portray what are your
archetypes in our game in our world who
is it that what are the roles who take
on and there’s a lot behind that
question this is not a question okay
what’s just this thing right I mean
you’re that’s may see your world
building but it gives direction to it it
makes you think about who do I want to
portray and ideally you’re going to
create those roles in a way that people
who are think about playing your game
would think wow I want to portray that
now you might have a very like Dungeons
& Dragons high adventure you know I’m
gonna go to dungeons battle monsters
okay great I want to be a warrior I want
to be like and you might pull in
characters from movies and think oh my
character to be like I want to be the
plain elf like Legolas I want to play
out like a powerful wizard man be cool
and a thorough volts of energy and just
you know things like that I want to play
the cunning road you know and so when
you come up with those those arc types
you’re essentially deciding this is what
I need to design for my players so that
they can go through pick these things
out and portray them that even applies
to much more sort of if you’re gonna
make a much more sane dramatic game I
call my game doesn’t have violence it’s
all about portraying the corruption of
you know the organized crime the 1950s
you’d still think okay I want to play
the undercover cop or I want to play the
you know the hitman or I want to play
the the mastermind or I’m gonna play the
criminal lawyer you know things like
that you’d still think of it that way
and that’s how I would approach it now
keep in mind that’s my approach
everyone’s approach is gonna vary but
that’s how I sort of my creative voice
flows I like to think of that so what
we’re gonna do here is walk through our
mystic impact answer that question if I
want to play a site-to-site on not
mystic if I’m gonna make a sign a
character who do I want to portray and
it’s essentially with these these
subclasses have shown us all what here’s
here’s roles you that you can portray
you can be the big bruiser tough guy you
can be the martial artist
can be the classic telepathic you know
Professor X character and then what the
road we got this kind of criminal
mastermind
you know just disappearing into the
firmament so what I want to do first
taking here at the draft of the mystic
and zoom back is we’re actually gonna go
to the subclasses first because this
really this is a stage we already have
our classes designed I’m not going to
design a bunch of new ones
okay what about the immortal is a barbed
subclass that actually might be
something to as we go through these we
might end up finding homes for some of
these if we think we want to keep them
but what we’ll talk about that
so the orders are the the subclasses
here the and Daedalus wing how is it
different that’s really something that’s
important here because that’s going to
tell us what we need to get to do here
is we look at these these subclasses if
we let’s say the order the avatar is up
on the screen so I’ll just dive into
that one if we look at this and say yeah
we think this is a character people want
to play now here’s the important thing
ideally your target is people who
haven’t they’re not familiar with the
concept of psionics yet there’s gonna
look at this as a piece of art and a
page and read the description and think
wow i really want to play that person
it’s really helpful if you’re pulling in
examples from pop culture characters
they already know but since this is an
expansion to an existing game we already
have our players handbook out there it’s
not as important if we’re making a game
from scratch you know going back to the
organized-crime game i talked about
where it’s oh I want to play the the
undercover you know the informant right
I’m coming I don’t know your game I just
know the genre I know the story I’m
thinking of the characters I want to
play we’re going a little bit deeper
here because Dungeons & Dragons has
already captured a lot of those sort of
knee-jerk responses you play a fantasy
adventure game kind of like World of
Warcraft Lord of the Rings or Conan the
Barbarian who don’t to play right and
you’re gonna say Archer I wanna be a
warrior right I want to be we’ve already
got those covered so we can be a little
more esoteric with these the important
thing is that we have a clear identity
for all of them
quick question from aids Apia how do I
feel the disaster Baron is coming along
the I’m glad you liked it it’s a little
bit on the back burner for getting it
finished
because I’m really focused right now I’m
getting this the sonics thing is
sprawled out a bit more
we do have almost everything though in
the queue to come out as an on earth
Turkana the scheduling the one thing to
keep in mind we since we do do use an
Arthur canna to play test things for
upcoming products there is a little bit
of a traffic jam there everything is
eventually going to show up in you a
unless in chat we just saw hey this
wasn’t working at all
which I don’t think is the case for
anything we worked on I think everything
that just didn’t work out we revised and
took a different path but so it’s just a
matter of sequencing and when stuff
shows up but I’ve been pretty happy with
the design we’ve done for almost
everything so far so I think it’s all of
its in us in the space now where it’s
ready to go to a UA it’s to matter of
traffic because well you guys don’t know
the schedule I know the schedule and I
know it’s coming up so it’s a little bit
crowded right now but everything will
eventually make its way out there I’m
also considering the Giants or sure
speed rules I love I was actually I’m
super excited about the kid that went
out there I’m thinking about maybe for
extra life in the spirit of being sort
of I’d like to call it enlightened
laziness saving myself time but then
doing something useful and maybe tying
some of these things to to extra life
maybe putting together a PDF source up
on DMS guild and like for a nominal
donation letting people grab an edited
version of some of the stuff I’ve done
I’m not sure yet if I’d want to do that
you know here’s the thing I chat feel
free to sound off how you guys feel
about this but this is my kind of
reaction to it I didn’t want to do that
with Sonics I know that could be a
really juicy thing I think soundex is
big enough but I just want to make it
freely available I think that it’d be
kind of fun to do a sort of donation
thing for other material but also just
if you think that the entire thing like
you know just let me know how you feel
you throw in chat I’ll keep an eye on it
anyhow probably ask on Twitter too later
I want to make sure that what we do for
extra life I know last year for instance
we auctioned off a personalized subclass
for everyone now which the everyone I’ve
heard from so far has agreed that those
subclasses will be released to the
general public so I might do those with
extra life too we’ll see I just don’t
want people to feel like Oh sound ex
we’re doing this together
on stream I don’t want people to feel
like on now have to pay make a donation
even though it’s a donation I don’t I
don’t want to take it you know I don’t
force anyone you know to get access to
things where they kind of feel it’s more
in the community space so so now that
I’ve walked it through maybe I’ll just
do it with the the four subclasses from
last year but the yeah and I think I
hadn’t found I think that’s kind of an
ideas we’d really want to get these as
wide exposure as possible that’s always
that’s something I struggled with last
year and that’s why I made the four
subclasses just for one person you know
one before them each one person was that
the we weren’t putting people in the
position of what we need to play test
this so I paid money for something but
now it’s going to play test so I didn’t
have to pay money yeah it’s something a
little bit tricky I don’t want to go to
the extent of writing a full adventure
because that takes a lot of energy and
if you watched my for instance the the
tanks game on Sunday I had like a page
of notes for that I am very much a
middle is DM so I could run into bench
everything turn it into an actual
adventure that you guys could use that
take a lot of work so I want to make
sure anyways oh yes so datalist we are
getting distracted so come on let’s
buckle down okay so what we’re gonna do
first is let’s take a look at existing
Scion special subclasses let’s take a
look at the Avatar so what I want what I
like to do when I think of this is I
write down the Avatar I think myself who
is this person right without looking at
the text this is somebody who embodies
virtues or beliefs inspires others is
the and I really think was psionically
it’s the walking manifestation of
emotion that’s kind of how I think of it
the glad people enjoyed the game I had
awesome players they made it so easy for
me I literally told them beforehand like
you know the first half hours is gonna
be you guys being you guys don’t you
know I’m not I’m not there to get in the
way it’s a different approach to DMing
than maybe for a home game but
especially we have such talented people
I mean I’ll say I don’t know if people
were expecting from Ron’s paladin I
think he was probably the least
well-known of those characters but when
when I heard about his character and
that’s character he plays in Joe’s
campaign this is gonna be easy
and then the Big Show was super he’s oh
he’s a hardcore gamer we had a nice
conversation but building his character
and he on phone about tweaks before and
he was really excited and so I was so
much fun
the it’s fun to be in front of an
audience I gotta admit the okay so let’s
take a look with the avatar
now here’s one thing here knows that our
avatar is Mashable for elements that’s
terminator 455 that’s correct I never
watch that show I need to I’m waiting
against my daughter’s old an apple-pie
watch together so okay so this is
something which now here’s one thing
gonna throw in here when I think of this
this might actually be a bard subclass
that’s one thing I threw out there
because we talked about bards who talk
about inspiring bards are all about you
know bringing out emotion in others so
this might be something which we want to
throw out there as a bard subclass
rather than necessarily nesting it
within the sion now quick side note as
part of what we’re doing here one of the
big flaws I felt with the what was
called the mystic was it was trying to
do too much and it meant that the core
of the character class was all over the
place so the oh and uh
Mirek the Arctic might actually just be
the avatar and maybe we’ll change the
name up what yeah so that in there that
was that was of the fourth edition
character class so what I want to do is
go through and find out which of these
subclasses I can only express within a
new character class I’m sure there’s
others other ones that we have not
accounted for might might float to the
surface and I’ve already thinking of a
few it sounds like it should be named
Bastion I don’t know the Bastion is a
can transform into a turret so that’s
next
overwatch reference for anyone out there
I had opportunity to go to the overwatch
League Denham Elia but just was too busy
too much too much stuff going on next
time I’m down there I do want to check
it out though I do i do love eSports I’m
a big sports fan so naturally alright or
to be awakened this is the character
that I think the The Mentalist has sort
of taken over the awakened is all about
you know bending minds using sanic
attacks so I’m gonna write this down but
I think pretty quickly I would really
intend that The Mentalist picks this up
and here’s why
when I picture there’s a reason why
in x-men professor axe is depicted you
know classically I have not follow
comics in a while but he’s depicted as
hey he’s this incredibly powerful
psychic figure but he’s not physically
he’s not meant to be imposing and I
think when this was a great example of
something where game wise this character
felt like they wanted to have light
armor or no armor few weapons a d6 hit
died and putting it in this class that
was kind of built on a cleric style
chassis was really working against it so
I think that what I would like to do is
just sort of say look let’s let’s put
the awakened over to the mental let’s
not try to follow up on this one the so
then let’s go out to our next one order
be immortal and this is another one
where this is all about using sonic
energy – oops – sustain your your
physical form and I think someone in
chat throughout that maybe this could be
a barbarian I could actually see that a
barbarian that the rage is like some
sort of is a psionic state I could see
that I could also see the psychic
warrior picking some of this stuff up
the that really the mastery of the
physical form i thinkin this is another
one where I wanted the immortal I check
check on chat Titan look at this right
bonus disciplines immortal durability
right starting at a first level your hit
point maximum increases by one per
mystic level this is the fifth edition
designer talk for I really wish I could
give you a bigger hit die but I can’t
because this class is d8 this is one
also when you’re aren’t wearing armor
wearing a shield your base AC equals 10
plus 2x plus con this is essentially
getting at the the aesthetic sort of
choice I was looking for here is that
typically these characters didn’t wear
armor it starts to look a bit like a
monk you know so I think if you’re
playing a soul life maybe that gets so
oldest if you’re playing a psychic
warrior and you just want to go with
light or no armor and build your
character that way or maybe the bar oh
you know what Dov this is the barbarian
so I think maybe the super durable
psychic guy I think that might be able
to go over there
the
yeah okay so I’m seeing I’m not seeing a
riot and shot yet for somebody’s okay
now come to the Nomad this is one thing
where things get a lot more interesting
so we think of the Nomad this is a
character who can bend space and maybe
even been time they’re good at using
soundex to essentially manipulate the
concept of space and time around them
not necessarily you know making like a
wall disappear per se but more I’m gonna
twist twist time in space to just move
to where the wall isn’t if that makes
sense so the our notes here they keep
their mind is a strange rarefied state
they seek out knowledge they perceive a
bizarre living with knowledge they call
the noosphere it’s getting a little
nerdy there but that’s I always want to
drop into a D&D book the so this is all
about going out gathering knowledge and
I like this this is a class who I feel
like do bards they’re masters of lore
yeah but they’re not this because these
guys are about themselves they are not
about I’m gonna also inspire others you
know it would be a poor this is a great
example of trying to say build us into
the Bard I think would be a dead end
because you’d have all these bard core
bard class traits that just wouldn’t
support this archetype so I think we
have our very clear the avatar was like
maybe but this one is very clear this is
this a scion subclass um I like the
flavor grapples you know this could be a
ranger but I think this character isn’t
necessarily walking around with a lot of
weapons also again just that flavor of
like I think the difference is the
Ranger I’ll use it here I’ll use an
example the Rangers traveling through
the forest leading the party because the
Ranger knows the terrain the nomads
might have something similar because the
Nomad is using psionics to learn about
the Train as you go using a sort of
clairvoyant style effect or tapping into
the web of knowledge around it so I
think there’s enough of a flavor
difference there that I wouldn’t want to
go Ranger I think this could be pretty
strong within this so this is basically
our knowledge of time and space this is
almost kind of like a maybe yeah almost
like they mean like Doctor Who I mean
it’s not quite there but this idea that
it’s character who knows a lot
and is using Sonic’s for knowledge and a
manipulate space and time I think that’s
I think there’s also something very
distinct we don’t really have another
character that can do that so I think
this is I think it’s a pretty good one
Solon I’ve already picked up so I’m not
gonna bother with it
I will bother in the sense we’ll make it
as a monk subclass and I gotta say
having designed this it works so much
better about subclass the wujin this is
a weird one so this was basically to get
ours our sonic blaster into place I
don’t think we necessarily need it
because if we think sanic that blaster
you know messing with the elements
this is Ono Matt is dr. Manhattan yeah a
human double-o – I like that yeah that’s
pretty cool
the I think that this isn’t necessarily
one we need anymore
because if I’m like hey I want to be a
sonic guy and I want to throw like lots
of energy around I can just play The
Mentalist and then stock up on some Evo
patient spells in addition to whatever
I’m pulling in from the Sonics bellows
so I think the wujin just goes away the
and this is okay so now you might be
thinking okay way to go Merrill’s you
had like six subclasses and you killed
them all
well Leonid demon yes a new subclass
astral constructor right this is work
that’s go in add a few new ones right
the so that’s the first one we talked
about the stream way ago way ago way
back when we first started working on
this there’s two that popped to mind
first is another other word I’m gonna
click on my right window call the
constructor this is something which I
know we get requests all the time
oops look at me using word this is our
summer this is the character I talked
about on stream a few weeks back where
they create psychic constructs and they
can view them with psionic effects the
classic one would be you know the you’re
fighting a group of works they have
their leader you create a sign a
construct it comes into being and it has
a fear of Eket a CH to it because since
it’s an act not just a you know but I
think it should have some of that ESP
mental flavor
and I might say look I’m actually gonna
reach into the mind of the orc chieftain
and pull out the thing it fears most and
that’s what I’ve created the other works
are afraid of it you’re right and it’s
fun thing about this is it’s a summons
and no one is like well was it was it
having tea like up and you know Anna
Vernis when I got pulled through now
this is purely a construct it does some
nice things world building wise it’s
just clean what’s actually going on the
I also want to have some fun with this
cuz here’s my here’s my weird flavor I
was thinking about this that new pistol
that that essentially this is you
bringing your imaginary friend to life I
thought this would be funny this is a
subclass actually had a little companion
there might be purely psionic that
you’re talking to and then you basically
then give it form it springs into being
and it starts doing stuff essentially
that’s your sort of you might have an
at-will ability to bring it into life to
do a limited set of things then use
power on it to make it do cooler things
the yeah
newbee one it looks different ever
that’s easy I think it’s exactly it if
you remember from the stream of my tanks
game that the moat the first mode of
light never looked at it they saw the
thing that was you know that they wish
for yeah I never once saw something
different right and now there’s now it’s
kind of wait I’m just just grabbing it
as like this beam of light I don’t think
I ever described the actual thing
because in theory I’d have to go around
the audience and ask everyone what would
you see so yeah so that’s one of the
first ones the other one this is a
favorite of mine cuz I always like this
and the metamorph I think we want a cool
shape changer this is the character I
think this is kind of taking the place
with the immortal a little bit and where
the immortal was kind of a warrior was
all about I’m durability think I want to
transform this a bit to being C pun this
is someone who can change themselves and
that could be new creature forms
elemental forms if you were watching the
stream so I custom-built for the Big
Show a sort of very crude but functional
the math was there didn’t look like it
cuz he’s actually did it Wow like I was
kinda he was a great example player to
Rex DMS playing out plans sealing up my
that’s what the dragons are so to come
down but closed it all up the this idea
that he could turn
if he caught it and watch the stream he
took a stone for him at one point gave
him a big booster armor class really
dropped his speed and also let him
deflect attacks that would have gone
through him if the dragons had breathed
again you probably have seen it he would
have had an ability to dampen that that
damage in the AOE because of his
defensive form you know things like a
liquid form you know stuff like that and
this is a class again when you look at
what we have out there the druid is a
shape changer but it’s a very directed
shape change you know it’s I am changing
into things that you find in nature this
is a character that I see is changing
into things and arise to the mind so I
think the I think you want to do
creature forms right but I think it’s a
lot more flexible rather than saying I’m
turning into an alligator I’m gonna
think of something dangerous and turn
into that and it’s more general this
might be an error rather than saying use
the alligator snap lock we’re giving you
statin bonuses and changes and it’s up
to the player to describe what did I
just turn into because it’s only it’s
the you know its power of mind right the
yeah turning to I one of the Big Show’s
forms as a fire form you could have gone
into the and yeah liebe Libre zero I
think some of the immortal disciplines
would go under here because I imagine
there’s probably some sort of like
durability aspect to this since I can
change my form you know you throw me
into water I can breathe water you
trying to set me on fire I can turn into
something that’s fire resistant
especially lower levels I think these
might be some of these abilities that
you could layer on all right so what
else we got yeah oh yeah
zap you know turning into an alligator
made of Nightmare fuel and tentacles
think that actually was it’s a good way
to think of it because there’s some of
these abilities is a player you might
flavor this as I turn into a creature
now I’m gonna use a fear effect like if
I’m a different ability that’s not not
one of my shape-changing ones that maybe
happened how you describe it to other
players like this is what I’m doing I’m
changing myself to make myself
terrifying than augmenting that with
sanic power to make all the orcs run
away or whatever it is I’m doing the so
let’s see a k3 one eight my to subclass
thoughts was wondering if you think it
would be interesting for something Jedi
force themed yeah I think that the the
other’s thinking is some of the other
things working with the astral plane
yeah I think the nomads I might actually
throw in something astral here because
I’m kind of thinking that might be how
they get around and also they how they
manipulate time since the astral is a
timeless realm but I think that’s the
sort of final one I want to do here so I
think what I’m gonna do is I’m gonna
throw via weight you know I’m just gonna
cut this so I think we’re good here
I think I’m gonna cut this because I
think we don’t need it and I think the
avatar I’m kind of thinking we might go
this route but I’m not gonna commit to
it yet but I think the final one is the
telekinetic character don’t know what to
call them yet but this is the character
who you know you know I think that
something could be very flexible and we
could do a lot of interesting force
effects that really it is a specific
like I’m gonna use my mind to batter
stuff around and move it and I think you
know I think this one needs a little
more consideration to give it that the
real flavor but I think telekinesis
since it’s here’s the thing this is a
great example of when you’re coming into
an existing system the telekinesis is a
very high level effect even for the the
Mentalist it was not something you got
till six level so getting this at first
level I think would be fun and I think
it would speak to a some would think hey
that’s yeah okay I want to play it on a
character oh cool oh no no I want
telekinesis right the classic Jedi you
know pushing stuff away from me this is
probably a good case where the mechanics
of the game might drive a might drive an
option we build to basically let players
you know
dip in you play a character they want to
play the right now the system just
doesn’t support now the danger here is
we can’t be too mechanical about it
we’ve got to think of a good story I’m
not gonna worry about that too much
right here right now though because I
think we can get to it the but I think
that that is something which we want to
build and it you know it kind of makes
me feel that then I think with if we
have four to start out with it’s a
pretty strong thing to build in I think
that these the Avatar style things we
might just keep the powers in the game
but not necessarily make it something
that is
a subclass so cuz I think maybe the bar
D we could do to the ardent and in swing
that over to the bar tonight I think
that would work alright so what I hope
this is kind of a shown is it mean
character class design often the first
thing you’ll do is you’ll think of the
subclasses you’ll think of who is it
that I am going to play or is that whom
no that’s not yeah who when I you know
what is the role I’m offering to players
you know when we’re doing this what are
the sort of the incentive are you like
to think it’s it’s a casting a movie you
know who but you know who is gonna make
up the cast of this game and what are
the roles that I want to play and so
starting with this starting with
subclasses is nice because it gives you
more specificity and it also starts
showing you what are the core features
of the class and then what are the
things that we need to make specific let
me throw in and come back to it Mike
it’s got a sweet died fellows asking off
to have a question was more coxed
eternal champion idea part of the
inspiration of the session yes 100%
the tower of hopes defiance was
thoroughly inspired by Moorcock and his
approach to the multiverse in the plains
and I’ve always found that I’ve always
really loved that that Michael Moorcock
stories we haven’t read them Elric the
eternal champion well worth reading
fantastic stuff Moorcock’s a great
writer another one that inspired me not
directly here but is uh Zelazny amber
series for me amber is very inspiring
when I think about the Gods my takeaway
from reading amber was that if you were
immortal and you had immortals in your
life whether it’s your family or just
people you know give it enough time
eventually those other immortals would
be both both both your best friends and
your worst enemies because you just have
such a long history that you’d have a
reason to save their lives and give your
life for them and you’d have a reason to
want to kill them you have so much water
under the bridge so yeah definitely more
cockin Zelazny or cheek huge influences
on how I think like cosmic D&D the see
what else we got here the oh cool you
met you met Moorcock that’s know I’ve
never met him I have never not had the
chance so anyway so this is kind of what
we’re looking at here so the next step
work in a character class okay River
this is just how I do it everyone you
know game designs a little bit finding
your own voice so you’re gonna probably
if you’re such if you’re starting out
whether you’re 10 or 50 or whatever
somewhere in between if you haven’t done
a lot of game design we’re doing it for
a while it took me a while to kind of
really establish how I do things I did
it for a few years many years actually
before I really felt comforting oh this
is how I like to do it it’s all about
finding your tools your toolset and what
you do so what I like to do at this
stage is then look here what we’ve got
here I’m actually gonna put this one in
italics just to remind myself that I’m
not really considering it looking at
these were to think to ourselves what
binds these characters together and very
simple stuff we have to do right now but
it’s useful to do this like what kind of
hit die do we expect this character have
so chat feel free to throw in your
thoughts but d68 d-10 maybe even d12
looking at these thinking of the Scion
and thinking of these four subclasses
where do you sit think Oh Ramona are
Bergsma the telepath we actually saw
that being thrown over by the The
Mentalist subclass of the wizard maybe
because we saw the telepath is being
probably physically less capable than
the other subclasses in this class so
I’m seeing some do you say 200 dark
elven double ODST yes there was highly
varying class for hit points would you
roll over here and said that’s like I
below 9800 one oops so I’m seeing a lot
of d8 d6 is 50 tends to d4 gold cliff
trust being I kind of class tyrant we
tried to test that with the Ranger at
one point to d85 people hated it
d6 are dat dark islands still voting for
that d hundred the so I think I’m seeing
a lot of d8 the one line of the druid d6
or d8 I think Daedalus winged miking d6
but d6 I don’t know if it’s well looking
at these subclasses you know here’s
machining I think well hmm d6 I’m seeing
actual eye people going up calling for
d6
that would be interesting because that
would well I don’t know what that would
do the would the wizard subclass we’d
figure it out later all right in a few
da it’s okay you know what I’m gonna
arbitrarily go for ya it might be too
much you actually looking at these
classes we’re not seeing anyone except
the metamorph who’s gonna get up in your
face and do damage to you and with the
metamorph we can build in those hit
points than the powers you know I want
to do this so here’s something I like to
do whenever I have a design where it’s a
though cuddly evil member cezzah
Warriors gonna be over in the fighter so
it’s kind of like having the Elder
tonight over in the fighter so we don’t
worry about the wizard itself being
tanky all right you know car games d4
let’s go back old school I’m gonna throw
in the d6 it done here’s why I think if
you’re you have a choice between
something that brings you more toward
the middle of your existing population
and something that pushes you to the
edge I think it’s good your first try to
go to the edge because that might prompt
something a bit more interesting now
here’s something that’ll definitely
happen though right if we find and I’ve
seen this happen in game design let’s do
a d6 that makes sense okay what’s your
first class feature your first class
feature is you get extra points right
like we no no let’s get rid of that you
know if we were to say we don’t want
this character that armor but then we
wanted to give them some you know funky
way to get their AC up like that’s we
will do the thing of what you just get
to add a second ability mod to your AC
that’s the easy thing to do if it starts
getting more techy the metals like just
give them armor okay let’s go let’s go
with d6 the you did dark elven do you
made a great case I was so tempted just
go on G percentage no I want to go the
opposite end right we’re gonna go crazy
with lots of hit points but that would
you know I gotta admit it’s kind of
funny to think I now kind of want to
make a character who’s one class feature
is they get like 50 hit points per level
and that’s it like no proficiencies
nothing it’s just you just you just take
up a 5 by 5 by 5 square and that’s your
entire job and it takes forever to kill
you like maybe give you super good
saving throws the
so okay so I think that’s an extra one
what about our armor we’re just talkin
armor throwing does this character get
armor did we think any any armor versus
Oh
eighty-three 180s if we do d6 that might
actually mean then we want to do a
telepath in this class well see though I
don’t want to bite off more than we can
chew at this stage well what I’d like to
do is work for the class features first
and then see and then what implications
that has for the wizard so we’ve got
okay so armor do we guys we got this
character is a default wearing armor
light nah see weighted comp there do ya
like that
the new class the roided counters huge
it’s anti pile of meat no armor light
armor plus it into the bins
okay so yeah I think we’re saying armor
and I think we could if you wanted to
give the inability it’s like int mod two
armor if we wanted to get but that that
might be a choice that actually might be
the sonic version of major armor but
we’ll get to that
okay so normal weapons do we feel like
these guys are using any like basically
we look at do they use swords or are we
just looking at bows I don’t you know
yeah shields no armor yeah no armor but
a really sweet looking at stabby burger
game that’s it gonna be stylish you’re
gonna go to the dungeon simple weapons
dagger staff cleric weapons yeah I think
he okay simple weapons no swords yeah to
have clubs short pros yeah okay so I
think we’re looking it’s it’s simple
weapons I don’t think we need to go as
far as the wizard list with it’s that
kind of funky idiosyncratic list we can
just go simple weapons so yeah weapon is
the mine scarecrow scarecrow King
thirteen thirteen exactly the mind is
the deadliest weapon alright so now
let’s take a quick look back here’s what
we ended up with a mystic and I think
this is where you’re gonna kind of see
some of the tension I felt in the class
so we had d8 hit points so we’re gonna
we might where to try dropping that down
and we can’t blight arm in simple
weapons now this here’s the thing that
when i look at these subclasses i don’t
see any reason why I need to like
address the armor and weapons issue
again that was that’s a good sign of a
class might be stretched beyond its
bounds if you’re like well but this guy
needs armor we did identify the
metamorph might me
more hitpoints but that might be a sort
of a class feature that’s giving healing
or additional polloi and so we can
figure that out but but I feel more
comfortable this because we – tell me
hey here’s our for current subclasses
one of the men the the metamorph has a
recovery feature I mean we already had
this right here as durability and
healing that’s it we’re not doing that
because mechanically we need to patch it
over we’re doing that because we think
it’s in flavor and that’s always a good
place to be if you’re doing things for
subclasses it’s in flavor as opposed to
this guy’s just get in this class is
getting its ass beat in combat we just
we need to give them better armor cuz
cuz otherwise they’re just getting you
know to go you know your flavor is not
working well with your actual story with
your actual mechanics so it’s good here
that if we had a character who could
recover and is durable but it makes
sense it’s the story driving this as
opposed to like well we’re adding it in
just to make it work for instance if you
know you can imagine a world we said
well it’s a shape change you’re getting
claws and a bite and stuff like that we
didn’t really think of durability as
being key that that would be a real
tension with d6 a new armor but I think
we’re good here even the armor part I
imagine when you change you’re gonna get
better armor I imagine that that’ll be a
feature alright good so and I think
that’s probably the no am I gonna bow I
don’t I think that I might would
probably be using more like I’m twisting
space to to hit you from short from long
range
like with short range attacks I we’ll
see we’ll see so the nice thing is when
we go back and look up here right we
could see his psychic warrior we wanted
to armor and more hitpoints so it would
have been pushing against it soul knife
same way they mix it up up close the the
rogue the lurk we’ll probably need some
of that you know because they’re gonna
be off on their own a lot again this is
something where maybe this kind of this
rolls over and becomes I mean we might
keep it we just might see it this is a
good option for if you don’t want to use
the class but you want to use Sonic’s
like you might in your campaign use this
I think we’ll keep it but I’m not too
worried about trying to make it the
defining you know men tools but we’ll
get there it said let’s tackle these for
them then see where that that it should
resolve itself I want to give us the
opportunity if we feel that d6 isn’t
working to go back to a d8 I don’t want
to lock us in quite yet all right so we
get five minutes so let’s take a look at
so this is a very simple case now this
is all it’s a matter of you know killing
your darlings let’s see what we created
last year and let’s see how much wood
survives saving throws intelligence and
wisdom I don’t think that’s gonna change
the sonic class being very mental makes
sense our skills Arcana history insight
medicine nature perception and religion
these are all mental skills without
going to charisma related skills I think
looking at these four right here that
makes sense the avatar is a little bit
of one who is out there like well it
seems like they should be charisma
driven but that’s also a very nice way
to do it too
if you’re looking at a class that is
using magic or has a spell casting stat
and you have a subclass that naturally
seems to want to push that to somewhere
else a subclass is a great great way to
resolve that because if we make you know
the art into subclass of the bard or the
average how would we call it
it’s a charisma casting class that just
takes care of itself
I don’t need to put in some weird thing
here to make your charisma relevant same
thing if we wanted to pick up this idea
of the immortal I could imagine if the
Barbarian if we did is a barbarian that
could specify in its psionics class
feature some class featured that you may
be using Constitution as you’re casting
stat so okay so I think these equipments
whatever that will just be based on the
features here’s a nice table which will
just skip the table is very important
but we don’t need to worry about it
let’s take a look at our class features
so I if you follow the stream for a
while you know there’s a big decision we
have to make up front about our sub
class and that is does your sub class
come in at first level third level or if
you’re the weird outlier that is the
wizard which is one of our core classes
but whatever odd second level and I
think shad sound off I have my
suspicions I don’t think this this is a
super tough question but I’m just
curious to see does the does everyone’s
expectation in chat line up with what
I’m thinking what level do you think you
should be making the the sub class
choice Act first purser second fifth the
banana will go crate just me a level I’m
gonna play for like a couple weeks where
we go third first second third first
looks like first is coming in for a lot
of characters a few points per second Oh
get to the second – oh that’s right
that’s right I get to second but I’m
seeing out of first 20th level red lets
you play this that’s like you know the
reward was now you get a subclass choice
I just love the idea now that that’s
someone would play D&D for a while I
think that’s noir like I was doing
classy no don’t you get a 20th level you
get to pick you know you can be a farmer
or mechanic dark out you know dark out
but down below I got a minute I like the
the the persistence in the number 100
hundred let’s make this a hundred level
class and we can make it I can you XP
table will divide you like your level
divided by five is your actual level or
know what forget it 100 level yours
isn’t your five times stronger the okay
lotsa for D fourth I share DB I will
make it random that would stand out
see you guys you don’t have to read the
feedback when the I read those comments
the special tip of the hat person who
put like I think one time someone put
some erotica in there like oh hey that’s
a nice little you know this is violating
our computer policies here at Hasbro but
the it was definitely a change of pace
okay so I’m seen a lot of boats reversed
in a second the you want more post
twenty Khan say the classicism
guaranteed to go to post twenty I see a
lot I think the manic isn’t waiting for
front I got one very ardent supporter
fifth level ok I think what you know I
think the second level I think actually
is I’m even example what of why second
level was not something that’s gay and
had no fainting at the hitting the nail
on the head first since the subclass
defines the playstyle that’s very true
and that’s a very powerful argument in
favor first and here’s I seeing people
saying first and second and I’m gonna
sort of show you like here’s why the
wizard doesn’t get it at first you wait
until second and that’s really just
because we felt there was enough stuff
going on at first level but we want to
just get in your hands as quickly as
possible that we could afford to wait a
level that we wanted to make any known
animal try to remember how much you know
what this is a little there’s a little
bit of a technical thing right here
excite I’m not oh wait no I think I if I
go to Dena beyond I think I have someone
else’s account up yeah here we go so
let’s take a quick look we have a minute
oops
it’s good at characters and classes
official and let’s go the wizard so if
we take a look at the wizard in its
progression what you see here is arcane
recovery is coming in at first we felt
that was really important for play that
while the arcane traditional stuff was
pretty cool we wanted you to get make
sure you are getting more spells and
tying those spells into the short rest I
mean obviously although the mechanic
works because that’s probably was a good
balance for it but it needed the players
at 451st level you were playing a bit
longer adventurer you had the chance to
rest as a wizard this gave you another
reason to want to trigger one of those
short rests and for any character that
had a short rest stuff going on this
just felt like a good way to get across
a short rests your first level take a
short rest
essentially power back up these are a
little trick I do oh and uh Edna feign
white why does a druid let I’ll take a
quick look yeah but I was little I
kidding I’ll go to the druid um this is
really about teaching about short and
long rests my trick I know first of all
characters are very fragile so typically
when I’m running a first level adventure
I give the players copious chances for a
short rest and I essentially designed
them with you know section of the
adventure short rest finale so I ran a
dungeon like a month or two ago where
there’s all this sort of initial
exploration kind of a mini boss
encounter yet the kind of solid like
it’s a it’s a trap and a Mike of south
and before you go into the final big
room like it’s telling you know here’s
the vault door when you open if there’s
danger on either side but we’ve cleared
out this tomb otherwise so let’s just
take a short rest and for first little
characters that’s essentially powering
back up they’re almost back up to full
so yeah let’s go and now one caveat I
don’t remember if this account has the
that would have the druid available
let’s take a quick look here we go so
now now the second interesting so I
can’t quite remember why we did for the
druid oh because of wild shape coming in
we wanted drew dis yes exactly so this
is a good example of the reverse we’re
keeping things pretty simple for you at
first level we didn’t want wild shape
and spell casting to come in at the same
time so giving you spell cast when you
felt especially for a first time player
and this is a good example of really
designing for the first time player
obviously if we played druids before an
experienced player getting spell casting
in wild shape is probably pretty simple
for you but if you’re a first time
player we didn’t want you to feel like
oh I’m learning spell casting and I’m
learning wild shape since the circle
spoke to wild shape we had to wait until
you got wild shape before your circle
abilities could kick could kick in so
that is really what would determine
whether at first or second for this
character class for the Sion we would
just have to look as we build it out
what are the core features that all Sion
the share and then does it make sense
just to give you hey they’re pretty
light it’s nothing too serious I need to
give you up front so I can give you your
subclass at first which I think probably
is the path bid go down or is there a
reason to delay until second and that
would need to be the subclass is
speaking to a pretty meaty class feature
that’s shared across all characters
width of the class or there’s another
mechanic that we feel like it’d be very
valuable to have a first level to help
you play that character I mean
essentially with the wizard having the
d6 hit points and pour weapons and armor
now compare that the druid was a d8 and
can be effective up front you know
keeping mind druids you know their their
proficiencies you’re getting medium
armor and shields so you are essentially
if you need to be the backup fighter you
can do that where the wizard was very
dependent on spells and encounters so
yeah so we’re at about three minutes to
the top of the hour ah
we’ll call it there we’ve got a pretty
good place now that we kind of see who
this can this character class we see who
it is becoming we’re seeing the
relationship between the subclasses we
built the ones I kind of think um is
like load-bearing subclasses like this
is getting the full suite
across the the concept of sanics in the
game and I think we’re gonna predict it
a place so next week we’ll talk about
core class features for the Sion which
in the process of that will also have to
start thinking about class features that
we’ll need for these the subclasses
essentially that that process will be
what are the things that all of these
characters need to be able to do and
then what are the things that they get
to do themselves so I hope that was fun
for everyone had a great time thanks
taking part chat for helping me solve
some of these issues
and I will see everyone next week so
take care
[Music]
Great stream today everyone! Chat was hopping, and the ideas are flowing. Can't wait for next week.

— Mike Mearls (@mikemearls) June 5, 2018

Does the “natural melee weapon” of the minotaur’s horns works with Divine Smite?

June 6, 2018Zoltar Leave a comment

@JeremyECrawford Interesting point in Dragon Talk today, you mentioned the "natural melee weapon" language of the minotaur's horns means it works with Divine Smite (and magic weapon?).

That seems at odds with previous answers regarding bite attacks. Is this a revision?

— Dan Dillon (@Dan_Dillon_1) May 15, 2018

Or are PC minotaur horns/centaur hooves somehow mechanically different from a monster minotaur's horns/monster centaur's hooves?

— Dan Dillon (@Dan_Dillon_1) May 15, 2018

That was part of a discussion about the magic weapon spell. I stated that it was meant to be cast on weapons that are objects, but that casting it on natural weapons would break nothing.

— Jeremy Crawford (@JeremyECrawford) May 15, 2018

Gotcha. So paladins can smite with whatever natural weapons by intent, and magic weapon at DM’s discretion? That's right!

— Jeremy Crawford (@JeremyECrawford) May 15, 2018

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